How Do You Calculate the Compton Edge Energy in Scintillator Experiments?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the Compton edge energy in scintillator experiments, specifically using a NaI(Tl) scintillator with a Cs137 gamma source. The original poster is confused about the relationship between the initial gamma ray energy and the Compton edge energy, particularly why the Compton edge occurs at a lower energy than the incident gamma ray.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the calculation of the Compton edge energy and questions the relationship between the angles in the Compton formula and the energies involved. Some participants discuss the angles relevant to Compton scattering and how they relate to the energy calculations.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the Compton scattering equations and their implications for the Compton edge. There is an ongoing dialogue about the correct application of angles in the equations and the resulting energies. Some guidance has been provided regarding the angles and energy calculations, but confusion remains regarding the relationship between the Compton edge and the photopeak energy.

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The original poster mentions specific energies and angles, indicating a focus on the details of the Compton scattering process. There is also a reference to external resources that may provide additional context or clarification.

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I am trying to calculate the energy at which the Compton edge occurs for a sample of Cs137 using a NaI(Tl) scintillator. I know the original energy of the gamma ray was 661.6keV. and that for the Compton edge the angle between the electron and the line of incident must be 0degrees (for max energy of photon). but this just give the value of the photopeak (incident gamma ray). How do i calculate the energy of the emitted photons from Compton scattering at the Compton edge??

[i have calculated the beginning of the Compton continuum using an angle of 180 degrees between the electron and line of incident (minimum energy of the photon) and this gives a value which is about the same as my graph]
i have looked at a few sites but am fairly confused as to why the Compton edge is at a lower energy to the initial gamma ray photon.

Many thanks
 
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According to these equations the Compton edge should be the same energy as the photo-peak, as when theta=0 the equation is just 662keV/1.
i don't understand how it is possible to calculate the Compton edge, with these equations.
 
rich86 said:
According to these equations the Compton edge should be the same energy as the photo-peak, as when theta=0 the equation is just 662keV/1.
i don't understand how it is possible to calculate the Compton edge, with these equations.
I think you are misinterpreting theta.

Thus, the maximum energy which may be deposited by a single scatter event is E - E' for = 180˚.

http://nucleus.wpi.edu/Reactor/Labs/R-scin2.html
 
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ok so plugging in theta=180 and E=2MeV to http://nucleus.wpi.edu/Reactor/pics/rscineq2.jpg gives E' as .23MeV as is shows in the diagram.
http://nucleus.wpi.edu/Reactor/pics/rscin3.jpg
But then theta=0 (ie gamma ray has most energy and electron is not scattered) E'=2MeV. this is not what is shown in the diagram.

how do you work out the 1.77MeV Compton edge?!
 
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ok sorry i was being really stupid the 1.77MeV comes from 2MeV-0.23MeV.

many thanks for your help.
 

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