How Do You Calculate the Force Required to Pull Out a Pin?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the force required to pull out a round pin under load, specifically focusing on the initial and sustained forces needed for a safety latching system. Participants explore the implications of neglecting friction and the shear force involved in the calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests assistance in calculating the initial and sustained force required to release a pin, emphasizing the need for a formula without having selected materials.
  • Another participant suggests that the diagram is incomplete and implies that the problem may involve shear failure, questioning the absence of additional forces in the diagram.
  • The original poster clarifies that the question is not for schoolwork but pertains to a safety latching system design, acknowledging a lack of recent physics knowledge.
  • The original poster seeks to derive a formula for the force necessary to release the pin and asks if friction is the only component to consider.
  • A different participant interprets the diagram as depicting a cylindrical bolt being pulled and suggests that a pin prevents the bolt from withdrawing, indicating that the force needed is to break the pin across shear.
  • This participant also notes that applying a large force may cause the bolt to jam rather than slide, raising concerns about the mechanics involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the completeness of the diagram and the factors to consider in the calculations, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved regarding the mechanics of the system.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in the provided diagram and assumptions about friction and material selection, which are not yet defined, affecting the calculations and conclusions drawn.

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Hello,

I need help calculating the (Initial and sustained) Force required to pull a round pin that is under load. I have attached a dim diagram showing the system. Please assume no friction since I haven't selected the materials. Also if you could help me calculate the Sheer force (again, I haven't selected the material) I would really appreciate it. Thanks.
 

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This looks like a schoolwork question.

As it stands you diagram is incomplete. Since you are neglecting friction I suppose this is a shear failure question (note the spelling of shear).

Can you add the appropriate (missing) forces to your diagram?

Also remember that your pull out force is at right angles to the loading so neither has any component in the direction of the other.
 
Hi Studiot,

Thanks for your quick response to my post. See my reply below:

>This looks like a schoolwork question.

Interesting observation. Unfortunaly it is not. This is the release system of a safety latching system I have designed. I haven't had a physics class since 1981 so I am a bit rusty.

>As it stands you diagram is incomplete. Since you are neglecting friction I suppose this is a shear failure question (note the spelling of shear).

Sorry, as I stated in my original post I haven't picked the materials so I can't calculate friction. I am looking for the formula to calculate the initial / sustained force necessary to release the pin (this is so I can select the correct strength solonoid). You are right the second part of my request was to help me with the shear calculation -this will also help me to consider which material I can select. Oh my, you did catch my typo! I won't make that mistake again. Thanks for pointing that out.

>Can you add the appropriate (missing) forces to your diagram?

I am assuming you are looking for friction. I covered that above. If you could assist me in deriving the formula I would appreciate it. If there are other forces that you believe I need please let me know.

>Also remember that your pull out force is at right angles to the loading so neither has any component in the direction of the other.

So friction is the only component to consider?

Thanks.
 
From what I can see of your drawing, you have a cylindrical bolt being pulled to the left through a journal by a pullout force F that you want to calculate.

You have also shown what looks like a pin set into the bolt on the other side of the journal from F, although this is not shown as such in the section (elevation?) to the right.
Presumably this pin bears against the back of the journal and prevent the bolt withdrawing, so what you need is the force to break (shear) it across.

Without such a pin there is nothing to hold the bolt in place, in the absence of friction.

Can you confirm that I am reading your arrangement correctly?

There is further comment worth making: applying nearly 2 tons of force as shown will certainly tend to rotate the bolt so that it jams in the journal, rather than slides.
 

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