How Do You Calculate the Inverse Discrete Fourier Transform Matrix F(hat)?

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The problem involves calculating the inverse discrete Fourier transform matrix, denoted as F(hat), for a specific 4x4 matrix F defined by its entries. The context includes verifying the relationship F(hat)F = I, where I is the identity matrix.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the definition of the matrix F and its entries, with some expressing confusion over the notation used. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between F and its inverse, with one participant suggesting a specific form for the rows of F(hat).

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the matrix definition and its implications. Some guidance has been offered regarding the structure of F(hat), but there is no explicit consensus on the calculation method.

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There is mention of a potential miscommunication regarding the notation for the matrix entries, which may affect understanding. Additionally, the original poster's previous thread is referenced, indicating a continuity in the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Let F be the 4x4 matrix whose (i, j)th entry is 5ij in F_13 for i, j = 0,1,2, 3.
Compute F(hat) and verify that F(hat)F = I


Homework Equations


The matrix F(hat) is called the inverse discrete Fourier transform of F.


The Attempt at a Solution


I found that e = 4, so (F)F(hat) = 4 I, so F(1/4 F(hat)) = I
I calculated that matrix F=
1 1 1 1
1 5 12 8
1 12 8 1
1 8 1 5

My Question: How do I calculate matrix F(hat)? I understand it is the inverse of F, but I am unsure of how to calculate it.
 
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jmomo said:

Homework Statement


Let F be the 4x4 matrix whose (i, j)th entry is 5ij in F_13 for i, j = 0,1,2, 3.
Does that mean anything to you? Because it doesn't to me.

Compute F(hat) and verify that F(hat)F = I


Homework Equations


The matrix F(hat) is called the inverse discrete Fourier transform of F.


The Attempt at a Solution


I found that e = 4, so (F)F(hat) = 4 I, so F(1/4 F(hat)) = I
I calculated that matrix F=
1 1 1 1
1 5 12 8
1 12 8 1
1 8 1 5

My Question: How do I calculate matrix F(hat)? I understand it is the inverse of F, but I am unsure of how to calculate it.
 
vela said:
Does that mean anything to you? Because it doesn't to me.

This question should have been a continuation of this thread:

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=751455

There the OP said he meant ##5^{i\cdot j}## instead of ##5ij##. Dunno why he didn't correct it for this post.
 
Might as well have continued this in your prior post. Now that you have ##F##, the ##i^{th}## row of ##\hat F## has the form:

$$(1, \omega^{-i}, \omega^{-2i}, ..., \omega^{-(e-1)i})$$

Where ##\omega## is the e'th primitive root of unity. I'm sure you can continue.
 

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