How Do You Calculate the Linear Speed of a Yo-Yo Using Energy Conservation?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the linear speed of a yo-yo using energy conservation principles. Participants clarify that the correct approach involves equating gravitational potential energy lost to the kinetic energy gained, considering both linear and rotational motion. The moment of inertia provided is crucial, and the radius used for calculations should be the inner radius where the string unwinds. After resolving various misunderstandings about the equations and the radius, the correct final speed is determined to be approximately 0.3058 m/s. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly applying the principles of energy conservation and understanding the geometry of the yo-yo.
  • #31
Yes, the moment of inertia will NOT be mr² because it is not a simple ring.
 
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  • #32
v² =(mgh)/(.5 m + .5 (I/r²))
v^2=((.8)(9.8)(.8))/((.4)(.5*.12))
What happened to the plus sign, lost between these two lines? Also I don't see dividing by .03 squared.
 
  • #33
Ok so v=((.8)(9.8)(.8))/((.4)+(.5*.12/.03^2))^.5 = .3058. Is that right?
 
  • #34
postfan said:
Ok so v=((.8)(9.8)(.8))/((.4)+(.5*.12/.03^2))^.5 = .3058. Is that right?
Yes, that seems correct.
 
  • #35
Yep, I agree!
 
  • #36
Ok, thanks for all your help!
 
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  • #37
Good to see someone else was helping while I was away :)

Just checking...
A yo-yo has mass 0.8 kg and rotational inertia 0.12 kg m2 measured about an axis perpendicular to the screen and passing through its center of mass. A light thin string is wrapped around the central part of the yo-yo that has radius 0.03 m. The string is attached to the ceiling as shown. The yo-yo is released from rest and begins to descend as the string unwraps.

Use conservation of energy to find the linear speed of the yo-yo by the time it descended a distance 0.8 m. Use g = 9.8 m/s2.

energy lost falling distance h is ##mgh = (0.8\text{kg})(9.8\text{N/kg})(0.8\text{m}) = 6.2720\text{J}##
... notice that working and the answer includes the units?

this energy goes into kinetic energy by $$mgh=\left ( \frac{m}{2}+\frac{I}{2r^2}\right )v^2 = \frac{mr^2+I}{2r^2}v^2\Rightarrow v^2=\frac{2mghr^2}{mr^2+I}$$ ... the trick is to pick the correct r.

The yoyo is basically rolling down the string on it's inner radius.
(Aside: This is what I mean by "show your reasoning" ... if you just memorize equations and do a bit of algebra, you will keep getting things wrong.)

When it's center of mass has a speed v, it is turning with angular velocity ... ??

Using r=0.03m, I get v=0.30581m/s. which is 0.3m/s (1sf)

If your program says that is not correct, you should check the input format: these computer things can be fussy about getting things exactly the way they expect
- does the sig fig matter for eg?
 
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  • #38
Sorry post fan.

I got stuck on the radius of the yo yo needing to be on the very outside like a disk with a string attached.
The yo yo is indeed rotating from the distance given in the problem. If they had given the radius of the yo yo from middle to the outside the moment of inertia for the yo yo would have been too large.

My bad, as they say on the urban courts of physics
 

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