How Do You Calculate the Magnetic Field Due to an Iron Disc's Dipole Moment?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the magnetic field produced by the dipole moment of an iron disc. The original poster attempts to determine the net magnetic dipole moment based on the composition of the disc and the alignment of its magnetic domains.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the calculation of the magnetic dipole moment and question how to relate it to the magnetic field generated by the disc. There is a suggestion to consider the disc as a loop of wire, prompting further inquiry about the implications of this analogy.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on relating the dipole moment of the disc to that of a loop of wire, suggesting a method for calculating the magnetic field at a specific distance from the loop. However, the original poster expresses uncertainty about the next steps in the calculation process.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of assumptions regarding the distribution of magnetic domains within the iron disc and the relationship between the disc's dipole moment and the equivalent loop of wire. The original poster also notes a hint provided in the problem statement that may influence their approach.

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For the first part I determined the net magnetic dipole moment of the disc by calculating the number of moles the iron the disc comprises of and hence the number of atoms. Then, by making the assumption that 30% of the magnetic domains, the ones that aren’t aligned, are instead distributed randomly such that the sum of their vector moments yields zero. Then, the net dipole moment is given by taking 70% of the maximum possible dipole moment which is the number of atoms multiplied by the dipole moment of an individual iron atom.
However, for the next part I’m not too sure on how to go about calculating the magnetic field due to the disc’s overall dipole moment. The hint says to consider the disc as being a loop of wire, although it’s not clear to me whether that is for the part that I’m having difficulty with or the subsequent parts on the topic of the wire's current.

Can anyone kindly provide some assistance?
 

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anyone?
 
samjohnny said:
anyone?
OK. You have the dipole moment of the disc. Call it μ (it's a vector).
now, tale a 1-turn loop of wire of the same radius as your disc. If it carries a current I, what is μ for this loop? Obviously, make I such that the two μ's are the same.

Now you have a simple problem of computing the axial B field 10 cam away from the loop's center.
 
rude man said:
OK. You have the dipole moment of the disc. Call it μ (it's a vector).
now, tale a 1-turn loop of wire of the same radius as your disc. If it carries a current I, what is μ for this loop? Obviously, make I such that the two μ's are the same.

Now you have a simple problem of computing the axial B field 10 cam away from the loop's center.

Thank you very much for the help, I've managed to get the answer.
 

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