How Do You Calculate the Maximum Height of a Projectile Using v, Theta, and g?

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The discussion revolves around deriving the equation for the maximum height of a projectile in terms of initial velocity (v), launch angle (theta), and gravitational acceleration (g). Participants are exploring kinematic equations and the relationships between vertical and horizontal components of motion.

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  • Participants discuss the need to express initial velocity components in terms of v and theta, and how to relate time to the vertical motion equations. There are attempts to substitute variables and clarify the definitions of initial and final velocities in the y-direction.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem. Some have offered corrections and clarifications regarding the equations being used, while others are still grappling with the relationships between the variables involved.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the correct use of sine and cosine in the equations, as well as the treatment of time in the context of reaching maximum height. Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use.

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1. I am trying to derive the equation for maximum height of a trajectory. Must be in terms of v, theta, and g.

2.Vy=vsin(theta) dy=vsin(theta)t+0.5gt^2

3. I know that I must find the point when the vertical velocity is equal to zero and must find one equation for time. Then sub this equation into another.

So I found from the first equation that t=dysin(theta) and then substituted this equation to the second equation listed above. I then got this equation dy=vdsin(theta)+0.5g(dsin(theta))^2.
I don't know what to do from here because of the two displacements. And I don't even know what I am doing is correct as I can't solve.
Can anyone help lead me in the direct equation, it would also be helpful to acctually show me what the max height equation looks like.
 
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You're going to need more than one equation to figure this out, but I'll narrow it down for you. We're given that the final velocity vy is equal to zero, and we're given g, v, and theta. We want to begin by placing the initial velocity in the x-direction and the initial velocity in the y-direction in terms of v and theta. To do so we use the equations:

[tex]v_{0x} = v cos \theta[/tex]

[tex]v_{0y} = v sin \theta[/tex]

From the kinematic equations, we'll want to use:

[tex]y = v_{0y} - 0.5(g)t^2[/tex]

You know how to get v 0y in terms of v and theta, so now we focus on how to get the time t into the given terms. Note again that the final velocity in the y-direction is zero, thus:

[tex]0 = v_{0y} -gt[/tex]

Solve this for t and you're in business.
 
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In the kinematics equation, what happened to the t?
and can you explain what Voy is opposed to Vy?
 
Oh sorry you're right, that should be:

[tex]y = v_{0y}t - 0.5(g)t^2[/tex]

Also, v0y is the initial velocity in the y-direction, and vy is the final velocity in the y-direction, which should be zero, right?

I forgot to put the "v" in the initial velocity equations the first time around. Just to clarify, they should be:

[tex]v_{0x} = v sin \theta[/tex]

[tex]v_{0y} = v cos \theta[/tex]

Does this make sense?
 
can you possibly explain how Voy-gt equals zero?
 
One of the kinematic equations for the y-direction is [tex]v_y = v_{0y} -gt[/tex]. If we know the final velocity in the y-direction to be zero, then we have:

[tex]0 = v_{0y} -gt[/tex]

Does that make sense?
 
That would be 0=Voy-g*tfinal then

In general 0=Voy-gt is not true, except at tfinal, which is the time when it reaches the peak
 
ok everything makes sense now.
i substituted the equation and came up to
dy=(v^2cos(theta)^2)/g) - (vcos(theta)/2)
Have i done this right so far? if so, how can i continue?
 
That would have been right if I had got more than three hours of sleep, I do apologize. It should be sine of theta, not cosine in your equation. You'd use:

v0x = vcos \theta

v0y = v sin \theta

But substitute the sin in for the cos, and you're good to go.
 
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Oops, one last edit. You're missing one term, and a few squares. Your answer should be:

dy=(v^2sin(theta)^2)/g) - (v^2sin(theta)^2/g2)
 
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ok thank!
 
  • #12
You're welcome, but also note that the final answer can be simplified :)
 
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ya i got it, thanks again
 

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