How Do You Calculate the Momentum of an Alpha Particle?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the momentum of an alpha particle, which is described as a helium nucleus with a given kinetic energy of 10 MeV. The scenario involves a collision with a gold nucleus, and participants are exploring the implications of the initial conditions and calculations related to momentum.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of velocity from kinetic energy and subsequent momentum calculation. There are questions regarding the mass used in the calculations and the significance of using different values for the mass of protons and neutrons.

Discussion Status

Some participants express agreement with the initial calculations, while others question the accuracy of the mass value used. There is a recognition of potential errors in the initial energy unit conversion and a suggestion that a different formula might be more appropriate for collision scenarios.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of significant figures in the mass values used, with some participants noting that rounding could lead to errors in the final momentum calculation. The homework appears to be based on textbook values, which may influence the discussion.

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Homework Statement


An alpha particle (a helium nucleus, containing 2 protons and 2 neutrons) starts out with kinetic energy of 10 MeV (10*10^6 eV), and heads in the +x direction straight toward a gold nucleus (containing 79 protons and 118 neutrons). The particles are initially far apart, and the gold nucleus is initially at rest. Answer the following questions about the collision.
What is the initial momentum of the alpha particle? (You may assume its speed is small compared to the speed of light).


Homework Equations


1 ev=1.69e-19 J= 1.69e-19 kg*m2/s2
K=.5*m*v2
p=m*v
mproton=mneutron=1.7e-27 kg

The Attempt at a Solution


I solved for velocity of the particle then multiplied it by its mass to find momentum.
10*1.69e-19=.5*m*v2
3.38e-18=8.8e-27*v2
497058823.5=v2
22294.81607=v

P=mv
P=8.8e-27*22294.81607
P=1.96194e-22
 
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um, yeh. It seems correct.
 
i thought so too... maybe the online program has the wrong answer.
 
10 Mega-eV ...
 
lightgrav said:
10 Mega-eV ...

what about it?
 
the solution you posted started with 10 eV , not 10 MeV ... Mega = 1 000 000 .
 
lightgrav said:
the solution you posted started with 10 eV , not 10 MeV ... Mega = 1 000 000 .

I would have never caught that. Thank you. The process seems correct to you?
 
the PROCESS looks okay, but where did you get m = 8.8e-27 kg ?

by the way, p^2 /2m is USUALLY more useful than ½mv^2 ... especially in collisions !
 
lightgrav said:
the PROCESS looks okay, but where did you get m = 8.8e-27 kg ?

by the way, p^2 /2m is USUALLY more useful than ½mv^2 ... especially in collisions !

I used numbers in the back of our book that our homework is based off of
 
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proton mass is 1.673 e-27kg ... only keeping 2 digits leads to severe roundoff error.

But I was asking "what computation did you use" which yielded that as the answer.
... it is a "leading" question
 
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lightgrav said:
proton mass is 1.673 e-27kg ... only keeping 2 digits leads to severe roundoff error.

But I was asking "what computation did you use" which yielded that as the answer.
... it is a "leading" question
This homework which is based off of our book only uses 2 significant digits for mass of proton and neutron.
total mass = 4*1.7e-27
= 6.8e-27

I apologize for the typo earlier as well.
 
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