How Do You Calculate the Resistance of a Voltmeter?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the resistance of a voltmeter connected to a battery with a known EMF of 5.0 V, which shows a reading of 4.9 V. The problem involves understanding the relationship between the voltmeter, the internal resistance of the battery, and the current flowing through the circuit.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the calculation of internal resistance and question the current values used in the analysis. There is a discussion about the conditions under which the current is measured and how it differs when the voltmeter is connected versus when a resistor is connected.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively questioning the assumptions made regarding the current in the circuit and the conditions of the experiments. There is a recognition of different cases being discussed, but no consensus has been reached on the implications of these cases.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of a simplifying assumption regarding the battery's source impedance being invariant with respect to current, which may affect the interpretation of the results.

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Homework Statement


A battery is known to have an EMF of 5.0 V but when a certain voltmeter is connected to it the reading is 4.9 V. The battery can deliver a current of 0.40 A when connected to a resistance of 12 Ω. What is the resistance of the voltmeter?

Answer: 24.5 Ω.

2. The attempt at a solution
Let's find the internal resistance first: E = I (r + R) → 5 = 0.40 = (r + 12) → r = 0.5 Ω.

Then we have 4.9 = 5 - I r → I = 0.2 A and the resistance is R = V / I = 4.9 / 0.2 = 24.5 Ω.

Is this correct? I am mostly unsure why do we look for current in here 4.9 = 5 - I r. The internal resistance is in series with the battery and the current is equal to 0.4 A.
 
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moenste said:
Is this correct? I am mostly unsure why do we look for current in here 4.9 = 5 - I r. The internal resistance is in series with the battery and the current is equal to 0.4 A.
The current is not 0.4 A when it's just the meter attached to the battery. The 0.40 A occurs when the 12 Ω resistor is connected to the battery. They are two separate experiments.

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gneill said:
The current is not 0.4 A when it's just the meter attached to the battery. The 0.40 A occurs when the 12 Ω resistor is connected to the battery. They are two separate experiments.

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Case 2 is the original case, right?
 
moenste said:
Case 2 is the original case, right?
What do you consider to be the original case?
 
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gneill said:
What do you consider to be the original case?
E = 5 V, I = 0.4 A, R = 12 Ohm.
 
moenste said:
E = 5 V, I = 0.4 A, R = 12 Ohm.
Then yes, that's what's depicted in Case 2.
 
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A simplifying assumption was made that battery source impedance is invariant with respect to current.
 
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