How Do You Calculate the Sum of This Geometric Series?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the sum of a geometric series, with participants analyzing a specific series presented in an image. The original poster believes the series is geometric and attempts to apply a formula related to geometric series.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the identification of the first term in the series and whether it should be adjusted. There are suggestions to rewrite the summation variable for clarity and to factor out constants to reveal the geometric nature of the series. Questions arise about the meaning of certain symbols in the context of the series.

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There is active engagement with multiple interpretations of the series and its components. Some participants provide guidance on how to manipulate the series to identify its geometric properties, while others seek clarification on terminology and notation.

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Participants are working with an image that contains the series, which may be influencing their understanding and approach. There is a focus on ensuring the correct identification of terms and the application of the geometric series formula.

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Homework Statement



equation: http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/6239/untitledkl6.jpg

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can use geometric series i think.

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I think this is a geometric series, i plugged numbers into the equation, starting from 1 and got: 1/16 + 64/7 + 256/49 +...

maybe i can use a formula something like this? --> 1/(1-a)

need help with this please.
 
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Is the first term supposed to be 16/1 rather than 1/16? Then I would take 16 outside the series. 16*(1+4/7+16/49+...). The stuff in parentheses is the beginning of a geometric series.
 
OK, now I've looked at the image too. I suggest you define k=n-1 and rewrite the sum with k as the summation variable instead of n. You will see that you need to move 16 outside the sum to get a geometric series.
 
"Is the first term supposed to be 16/1 " you it is.

"I suggest you define k=n-1 and rewrite the sum with k as the summation variable instead of n."

..sorry, I'm not too good with the terminology.

however I've attached a new pic, of some of the work i did, but i need help.

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/4371/untitledme4.jpg

not sure if I'm on the right track, feel free to correct me!
 
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What does that "5" (or is it an "S") in your image mean? The crucial point is that the fractions in your sum are not powers of 4/7. Yes, that is a geometric series- use the formula for the sum of a geometric series.

What Fredrick was talking about before is this- your first image gives
[tex]\frac{4^{n+1}}{7^{n-1}}[/tex]
and I'm sure you are used to having just "r^n". Okay, take out everything except the "n". 4n+1= (4n)(4) and 7n-1= (7n)(7-1).
[tex]\frac{4^{n+1}}{7^{n-1}}= \frac{(4)(4^n)}{7^{-1}7^n}[/tex]
[tex]= \frac{4}{7^{-1}}\frac{4^n}{7^n}= (4)(7)\left(\frac{4}{7}\right)^n= 28\left(\frac{4}{7}\right)^n[/tex]
 
yes, the 5 was an S.

okay, 28(4/7)^n, is that my new S?

where do i go from here? before I would just have a solid fraction and divide through to get what S equals.
 
rcmango said:
yes, the 5 was an S.

okay, 28(4/7)^n, is that my new S?

where do i go from here? before I would just have a solid fraction and divide through to get what S equals.
I have no idea. What do YOU mean by "S"? Perhaps it would be a good idea for you to post what you are using as the formula for the sum of a geometric series.
 
HallsofIvy said:
What does that "5" (or is it an "S") in your image mean? The crucial point is that the fractions in your sum are not powers of 4/7. Yes, that is a geometric series- use the formula for the sum of a geometric series.

What Fredrick was talking about before is this- your first image gives
[tex]\frac{4^{n+1}}{7^{n-1}}[/tex]
and I'm sure you are used to having just "r^n". Okay, take out everything except the "n". 4n+1= (4n)(4) and 7n-1= (7n)(7-1).
[tex]\frac{4^{n+1}}{7^{n-1}}= \frac{(4)(4^n)}{7^{-1}7^n}[/tex]
[tex]= \frac{4}{7^{-1}}\frac{4^n}{7^n}= (4)(7)\left(\frac{4}{7}\right)^n= 28\left(\frac{4}{7}\right)^n[/tex]

rcmango said:
yes, the 5 was an S.

okay, 28(4/7)^n, is that my new S?

where do i go from here? before I would just have a solid fraction and divide through to get what S equals.

HallsofIvy said:
I have no idea. What do YOU mean by "S"? Perhaps it would be a good idea for you to post what you are using as the formula for the sum of a geometric series.

Do you mean this?

[tex]\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{4^{n+1}}{7^{n-1}}= \frac{(4)(4^n)}{7^{-1}7^n}[/tex] ? Sigma?
 
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