How Do You Calculate Work from a Force Applied at an Angle?

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The discussion revolves around calculating work done by a force applied at an angle. The force is defined as a function of position, specifically \( F(x) = x^2 - 2x \) Newtons, and the angle of application is 30 degrees above the horizontal. Participants are tasked with finding the work done over a distance of 2 meters.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore different equations for calculating work, including the integral of force, the force multiplied by the cosine of the angle, and a direct application of force over distance. There is uncertainty about which equation is most appropriate given the angle of application.

Discussion Status

Some participants express confusion regarding the correct application of the equations, particularly in relation to the angle and the definition of force. Guidance is provided regarding the middle equation being a valid approach, and there is an ongoing exploration of the integration process and its implications.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted ambiguity in defining the force in relation to the angle, and participants are questioning the assumptions made about the equations and their applicability in this scenario.

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Homework Statement


A force is applied to a block downwards at 30 degrees above the horizon line. the Force = x^2 - 2x (Newtons). Find work over the first 2 meters


Homework Equations


Work = integral(F(x)dx)
Work = integral(Fcos(theta)dx)
Work = F(x)delta(x)

The Attempt at a Solution


Im really unsure as to which equation i should use in this case. If I use the top one i find that (x^3)/3 - x^2 = W so I would plug in 2 for x and get 8/3 - 4 but that leaves out angle so I think it's incorrect.
The middle equation looks more promising but I am confused as to what F is in this case. would F be the F(x)? if so would i have to integrate (x^2 - 2x)*sqrt(3)/2 (cos30 = sqrt(3)/2)
The lower equation looks just as wrong as the first, so I am leaning towards the middle one to help me out. Is this even remotely correct?
 
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gggorillaz said:

Homework Statement


A force is applied to a block downwards at 30 degrees above the horizon line. the Force = x^2 - 2x (Newtons). Find work over the first 2 meters


Homework Equations


Work = integral(F(x)dx)
Work = integral(Fcos(theta)dx)
Work = F(x)delta(x)

The Attempt at a Solution


Im really unsure as to which equation i should use in this case. If I use the top one i find that (x^3)/3 - x^2 = W so I would plug in 2 for x and get 8/3 - 4 but that leaves out angle so I think it's incorrect.
The middle equation looks more promising but I am confused as to what F is in this case. would F be the F(x)? if so would i have to integrate (x^2 - 2x)*sqrt(3)/2 (cos30 = sqrt(3)/2)
The lower equation looks just as wrong as the first, so I am leaning towards the middle one to help me out. Is this even remotely correct?
Yes, it is. The middle equation is the definition of work.
 
Ok sweet, so i would find integral of sqrt(3)(x^2/2 -2x) which = sqrt(3)/2(x^3/3 - x^2). now if i plug 2m in for x i find sqrt3 /2(8/3 - 4) which =-2sqrt(3)/3 right?
 
gggorillaz said:
Ok sweet, so i would find integral of sqrt(3)(x^2/2 -2x) which = sqrt(3)/2(x^3/3 - x^2). now if i plug 2m in for x i find sqrt3 /2(8/3 - 4) which =-2sqrt(3)/3 right?
Yes, correct!:approve:
 

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