How Do You Compute the Matrix Representation and Check for Eigenbasis?

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The discussion revolves around computing the matrix representation of a linear operator T on the vector space R² with respect to a given basis beta. Participants are also exploring whether the basis consists of eigenvectors of T.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss how to compute the matrix representation [T]beta by applying T to the basis vectors and expressing the results as linear combinations of the basis. There are questions about the definitions of eigenvectors and the implications of the results obtained.

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Some participants have provided guidance on calculating the matrix representation and have engaged in clarifying the concept of eigenvectors. The discussion includes multiple interpretations of the results, particularly regarding the eigenvector status of the basis.

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There is uncertainty regarding the application of the definitions and the calculations involved, as well as the implications of the results on the eigenvector status of the basis. Participants are working within the constraints of the problem as presented, without access to additional examples or resources.

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For each of the following linear operators T on a vector space V and ordered bases beta, compute [T]beta, and determine whether beta is a basis conisting of eigen vectors of T.

V=R^2, T((a,b)^t)= (10a-6b
17a-10b)

and beta ={(1,2)^t , (2,3)^t)


im using transpose because I am not sure how to make thenbe vectors going down


My question is how do you do it. My back doesn't give any example on how to these types of problems. I thought of using e1 and e2 but that doesn't get me the answer in the back of the book and i tried plugging in the basis but that didnt work.


If it helps the answer for [T]beta =(02
-10)
but i have no idea how they got that
 
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Hi PunkyC7! :smile:

What is [T]beta? Is it the matrix of T with respect to beta?

If so, then denote beta={x,y}. You will have to calculate T(x) and T(y) and write these things as a linear combination of x and y. Then you need to put it into a matrix.

If it isn't clear, I'll give an example.
 
yeah its with respect to beta

so if you plug in our first beta we get (-2,-3)^t do we set that equal to x(1,2)+y(2,3)?
 
Punkyc7 said:
yeah its with respect to beta

so if you plug in our first beta we get (-2,-3)^t do we set that equal to x(1,2)+y(2,3)?

Well, you want to find x and y such that (2,3)=(x+2y,2x+3y). This is a system of two equations and two unknowns...
 
so that's how they go (0,-1) ok
so know do you know if it consists of eigen vectors
 
Well, what is an eigenvector?
 
an eigen vector is a vector is a vector in V that is non zero such that T(v)=lamdav where lamda is the eigen value
 
Indeed, so is T(1,2) from the form lambda*(1,2)?
 
no i guess not so, since we don't have any other vector to make it span R^2 there is know reason to check the other right
 
  • #10
Certain? What is T(1,2) in terms of (1,2) and (2,3)?
 
  • #11
x=0
y=-1
 
  • #12
So T(1,2)=-(2,3), so this indeed means that you won't have a basis of eigenvectors!
 
  • #13
why does it mean it?
 
  • #14
Because T(1,2) is not a multiple from (1,2). That is T(1,2)=-(2,3), and thus not T(1,2)=lambda*(1,2)...
 
  • #15
You can express e1 = <1,0> and e2 = <0,1> in terms of beta[1] and beta[2]. Then anything of the form a*e1 + b*e2 can be re-written as a linear combination of beta[1] and beta[2].

RGV
 

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