How Do You Compute the Tensor Product of Two Matrices?

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The discussion revolves around computing the tensor product of two matrices, A and B, represented in a specific basis. The matrices are defined with elements a, b, c, d for A and α, β, γ, δ for B, and the task is to express the resulting tensor product in a new basis formed by the combinations of the original basis vectors.

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  • Participants describe their attempts to express the tensor product in matrix form and seek a general formula for the elements of the resulting matrix. There are questions about how to generalize the findings to matrices of arbitrary sizes and elements.

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Some participants have shared their findings regarding the structure of the resulting matrix and specific elements, while others have pointed out issues with LaTeX formatting in the posts. There is ongoing exploration of the definitions and properties of tensor products versus Kronecker products.

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Participants note confusion regarding LaTeX formatting, which may affect the clarity of the mathematical expressions being discussed. There is also mention of the relationship between tensor products and Kronecker products, suggesting a need for clarification on these concepts.

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If A = \[ \left( \begin{array}{ccc}<br /> a &amp; b \\<br /> c &amp; d \end{array} \right)\][\tex]<br /> and B=\[ \left( \begin{array}{ccc}&lt;br /&gt; \alpha &amp;amp; \beta \\&lt;br /&gt; \gamma &amp;amp; \delta \end{array} \right)\] [\tex]&lt;br /&gt; in the basis |e1&amp;gt;,|e2&amp;gt;, find&lt;br /&gt; AxB (where &amp;quot;x&amp;quot; is the tensorproduct) in the basis |e1e1&amp;gt;,|e1e2&amp;gt;,|e2e1&amp;gt;,|e2e2&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;h2&gt;Homework Equations&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;br /&gt; -&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;h2&gt;The Attempt at a Solution&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I managed to find out how the new matrix works :&lt;br /&gt; C = \[ \left( \begin{array}{ccc}&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; a11B &amp;amp;amp; a12B \\&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; a21B &amp;amp;amp; a22B \end{array} \right)\]&lt;br /&gt; I&amp;#039;ve been trying to find a formula, expressed in indices voor the C_{ij}[\tex] element, but I can&amp;amp;#039;t seem to work it out. I am able to find the C_{43} element in this expample, but I can&amp;amp;#039;t generalise it to a matrix of arbritary sizes and a arbritary element. Can anyone help me with this?&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; EDIT: Latex is acting really weird, all the formulas are in the wrong places?!
 
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Homework Statement


If A = \[ \left( \begin{array}{ccc}<br /> a &amp; b \\<br /> c &amp; d \end{array} \right)\]
and B=\[ \left( \begin{array}{ccc}<br /> \alpha &amp; \beta \\<br /> \gamma &amp; \delta \end{array} \right)\]
in the basis |e1>,|e2>, find
AxB (where "x" is the tensorproduct) in the basis |e1e1>,|e1e2>,|e2e1>,|e2e2>

The Attempt at a Solution


I managed to find out how the new matrix works :
C = \[ \left( \begin{array}{ccc}<br /> a11B &amp; a12B \\<br /> a21B &amp; a22B \end{array} \right)\]
I've been trying to find a formula, expressed in indices voor the C_{ij} element, but I can't seem to work it out. I am able to find the C_{43} element in this expample, but I can't generalise it to a matrix of arbritary sizes and a arbritary element. Can anyone help me with this?

EDIT: Latex is acting really weird, all the formulas are in the wrong places?!

Homework Statement


If A = \[ \left( \begin{array}{ccc}<br /> a &amp; b \\<br /> c &amp; d \end{array} \right)\][\tex]<br /> and B=\[ \left( \begin{array}{ccc}&lt;br /&gt; \alpha &amp;amp; \beta \\&lt;br /&gt; \gamma &amp;amp; \delta \end{array} \right)\] [\tex]&lt;br /&gt; in the basis |e1&amp;gt;,|e2&amp;gt;, find&lt;br /&gt; AxB (where &amp;quot;x&amp;quot; is the tensorproduct) in the basis |e1e1&amp;gt;,|e1e2&amp;gt;,|e2e1&amp;gt;,|e2e2&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;h2&gt;The Attempt at a Solution&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I managed to find out how the new matrix works :&lt;br /&gt; C = \[ \left( \begin{array}{ccc}&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; a11B &amp;amp;amp; a12B \\&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; a21B &amp;amp;amp; a22B \end{array} \right)\]&lt;br /&gt; I&amp;#039;ve been trying to find a formula, expressed in indices voor the C_{ij}[\tex] element, but I can&amp;amp;#039;t seem to work it out. I am able to find the C_{43} element in this expample, but I can&amp;amp;#039;t generalise it to a matrix of arbritary sizes and a arbritary element. Can anyone help me with this?&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; EDIT: Latex is acting really weird, all the formulas are in the wrong places?!
 
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If A = \[ \left( \begin{array}{ccc}<br /> a &amp; b \\<br /> c &amp; d \end{array} \right)\][\tex]<br /> and B=\[ \left( \begin{array}{ccc}&lt;br /&gt; \alpha &amp;amp; \beta \\&lt;br /&gt; \gamma &amp;amp; \delta \end{array} \right)\]<br /> in the basis |e1&gt;,|e2&gt;, find<br /> AxB (where &quot;x&quot; is the tensorproduct) in the basis |e1e1&gt;,|e1e2&gt;,|e2e1&gt;,|e2e2&gt;<br /> <br /> I managed to find out how this new matrix works :<br /> C = \[ \left( \begin{array}{ccc}&lt;br /&gt; a11B &amp;amp; a12B \\&lt;br /&gt; a21B &amp;amp; a22B \end{array} \right)\]<br /> I&#039;ve been trying to find a formula, expressed in indices voor the C_{ij} element, but I can&#039;t seem to work it out. I am able to find the C_{43} element in this expample, but I can&#039;t generalise it to a matrix of arbritary sizes and a arbritary element. Can anyone help me with this?
 
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You may like to check http://mathworld.wolfram.com/KroneckerProduct.html"

Kronecker product is in a reverse order than tensor product.
 
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EDIT: Latex is acting really weird, all the formulas are in the wrong places?!
You wrote \tex instead of /tex in a few places.
 

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