How Do You Convert Between Two Coordinate Systems with Different Basis Vectors?

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on converting between two coordinate systems defined by different basis vectors: \(\vec{a}, \vec{b}, \vec{c}\) and \(\vec{m}, \vec{n}, \vec{p}\). The basis vectors of the second system are given specific values and lengths, with angles between them set at 75 degrees. The participants analyze the dot product and magnitudes of these vectors, concluding that the vectors in the first coordinate system are not orthogonal, as evidenced by the non-zero dot product between \(\vec{m}\) and \(\vec{n}\). The discussion emphasizes the importance of including cross terms in the calculations for accurate results.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of vector mathematics and coordinate systems
  • Familiarity with dot product and vector magnitudes
  • Knowledge of trigonometric functions, particularly cosine
  • Basic grasp of linear algebra concepts
NEXT STEPS
  • Study vector transformations between different coordinate systems
  • Learn about the properties of dot products and their implications in vector analysis
  • Explore the concept of orthogonality in vector spaces
  • Investigate the use of cross products in vector calculations
USEFUL FOR

Students in physics or mathematics, particularly those studying vector calculus, as well as professionals in fields requiring spatial analysis and coordinate transformations.

LMZ
Messages
10
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


2 coordinate systems are given:
1st: \vec{a}, \vec{b}, \vec{c}
2nd: \vec{m}, \vec{n}, \vec{p}
in system \vec{a}, \vec{b}, \vec{c} basis vectors of 2nd system have values:
\vec{m}=\{2/3, 1/3, 1/3\}, \vec{n}=\{-1/3, 1/3, 1/3\}, \vec{p}=\{-1/3, -2/3, 1/3\}
also known that all 3 basis vectors of 2nd coordinate system have length 5 units and angle between each 2 vectors of 2nd system is 75 Grades.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


1st equation: distance of vector \vec{m} is |\vec{m}|=\sqrt{a^2*4/9 + b^2*1/9 + c^2*1/9}=5u
2nd equation: dot product (\vec{m}, \vec{n}) is |\vec{m}|*|\vec{n}|\cos{75^o}=25u*0.38=a^2*(-2/9) + b^2*1/9 + c^2*1/9}
next multiply 2nd with (-1) and substract from 1st 2nd:
a^2*2/3=5u(1-0.38); a \approx 2.15u, BUT length of the vector a should be greater then leght of the vector m, i guess...

Hope you'll understand what I mean ;)
thanks for your help!
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
I don't think that the vectors in the first coordinate system are orthogonal. If they are, then the dot product of m and n would be zero which makes the angle between them 90o not 75o. Therefore, you cannot say that

|\vec{m}|=\sqrt{a^2*4/9 + b^2*1/9 + c^2*1/9}

You are missing the cross terms in the dot product

m ^{2} = \vec{m}\cdot \vec{m}

I assume you are looking for the magnitudes of a, b and c.
 

Similar threads

Replies
5
Views
3K
Replies
18
Views
2K
Replies
56
Views
6K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
3K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
4K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
Replies
20
Views
4K