How do you determine convergence of a series?

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The discussion revolves around determining the convergence or divergence of series, specifically focusing on examples such as the summation of 1/(2n) and (k^2)/((k^2)-1). Participants are exploring the reasoning behind the divergence of these series and discussing various tests for convergence.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to understand why certain series are divergent, referencing specific examples and discussing the harmonic series and comparison tests. Questions about the implications of partial sums and their behavior are also raised.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different convergence tests, with some participants suggesting the integral test and comparison test. Multiple interpretations of the examples are being discussed, and guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the terms of the series and known divergent series.

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Some participants note that they have not yet covered certain convergence tests in their studies, which may limit their understanding of the examples discussed. There is also uncertainty regarding the implications of increasing or decreasing sequences of partial sums.

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I just need to know how you determine if a series of convergent or divergent. I have this example in which I know is divergent I just don't know why: summation (n=1 to infinity) 1/(2n)

The first couple of terms are 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/6 + 1/8 + ...

Up until that point, it's already beyond equaling 1. Dont know if that means anything.

Another example is summation (k=2 to infinity) (k^2)/((k^2)-1) also divergent

Hoping if someone explains it to me with these examples that I'll understand better. Please help so I can learn this!
 
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arl146 said:
I just need to know how you determine if a series of convergent or divergent. I have this example in which I know is divergent I just don't know why: summation (n=1 to infinity) 1/(2n)

The first couple of terms are 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/6 + 1/8 + ...

Up until that point, it's already beyond equaling 1. Dont know if that means anything.

You should use the integral test for convergence for this kind of series.

arl146 said:
Another example is summation (k=2 to infinity) (k^2)/((k^2)-1) also divergent

Hoping if someone explains it to me with these examples that I'll understand better. Please help so I can learn this!
Well, I'm not sure if you made a typo here... But you can immediately see that the terms ak>1 for all k, so you know that
[tex]\sum_{k=2}^N a_k \ge \sum_{k=2}^N 1[/tex]
 
Your series is
[tex]\sum \frac{1}{2}\frac{1}{n}= \frac{1}{2}\sum\frac{1}{n}[/tex]
That's the "harmonic series" which is well known to be divergent (by the integral test as clamtrox suggests).

For all k, [itex]k^2/(k^2- 1)> k^2/k^2= 1[/itex] and, of course, [itex]\sum 1[/itex] diverges so by the comparison test the original series diverges.
 
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well up to this point, this is the first section on series. therefore, we haven't met the integral test for convergence just yet. and not sure what you mean on a typo ...



HallsofIvy said:
For all k, [itex]k^2/(k^2- 1)> k^2/k^2= 1[/itex] and, of course, [itex]\sum 1[/itex[ diverges so by the comparison test the original series diverges.[/itex]
[itex] <br /> i don't understand what youre saying[/itex]
 
I don't see that you had a typo - it looked fine to me.

For your second series, HallsOfIvy is saying that each term of your series is larger than 1, and the series $$\sum_{n = 1}^{\infty}1 = 1 + 1 + 1 + ... + 1 + ...$$ diverges, because the sequence of partial sums keeps increasing. Since that series diverges, and since each term of the series you're interested in is larger, then your series diverges, too. This is the comparison test in action.
 
so is it always that if the sequence of partial sums increases, the series in the problem diverges. but does it work the other way around, like if the sequence of partial sums decreases, the series in the problem converges?
 

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