How Do You Determine the Intersection Point of a Line Orthogonal to a Plane?

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The discussion revolves around determining the intersection point of a line that is orthogonal to a given plane defined by the equation aX + bY + cZ + d = 0. Participants are exploring how to express the coordinates of the crossing point using the parameters a, b, c, and d.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the directional vector of the line and the coefficients of the plane equation. There are attempts to express the coordinates of the intersection point using various mathematical manipulations and considerations of vector lengths. Questions arise regarding the signs of the parameters and the implications of different representations of the plane's equation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts and attempts at solving the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the line and the plane, but there is no clear consensus on the correct interpretation of the signs in the final expression for the intersection point.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that there may be confusion regarding the representation of the plane's equation and the implications of the directional vector's orientation. There is also mention of varying levels of familiarity with the concepts involved, which may affect the clarity of the discussion.

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Homework Statement




A plane has the equation aX + bY + cZ + d = 0. A line L goes from (0,0,0) and crosses the plane at some point. L and plane are orthogonal. express the coordinates of the crossing point P by: a, b, c and d.


Homework Equations



I know that [a,b,c] is the directional vector for the line and that

|d|/sqrt(a^2 + b^2 + c^2) is the distance between point P and origo. I know and understand this at least.

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm lost lol
 
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ah damn, I haven't learned about directional vectors this year. but i was reminded about that stuff by a friend who helped me with this assignment.

So, if I divide [a,b,c] by the length of the directional vector, sqrt(a^2 + b^2 + c^2) and then multiply it by the length of the OP vector, |d|/sqrt(a^2 + b^2 + c^2), I get:

a|d|/a^2 + b^2 + c^2, b|d|/a^2 + b^2 + c^2, c|d|/a^2 + b^2 + c^2 = P.

The answer is supposed to be (-ad/a^2 + b^2 + c^2,-bd/a^2 + b^2 + c^2,-cd/a^2 + b^2 + c^2) = P

*sigh* does this have something to do with all the fools sometimes saying a plane's equation is ax+by+cz -d = 0 instead of ax+by+cz +d = 0 ? or that d is negative if the directional vector is posetive?

has been a really long day at school + after 4 me and I'm sleepy as hell.. hope somebody can fill me in tomorrow
 
Nikitin said:

Homework Statement




A plane has the equation aX + bY + cZ + d = 0. A line L goes from (0,0,0) and crosses the plane at some point. L and plane are orthogonal. express the coordinates of the crossing point P by: a, b, c and d.
Let the line be given by x= ut, y= vt, z= wt (since (0,0,0) satifies that). If the plane and line are orthogonal, then <u, v, w> must be orthogonal to the plane and so must be parallel to <a, b, c>. That is u= ka, v=kb, w= kc. x= kat, y= kbv, z= kct. Putting that into the equation of the plane, k(a^2+ b^2+ c^2)t+ d= 0. t= -d/(a^2+ b^2+ c^2). Put that into the equation of the line and solve for x, y, and z.


Homework Equations



I know that [a,b,c] is the directional vector for the line and that

|d|/sqrt(a^2 + b^2 + c^2) is the distance between point P and origo. I know and understand this at least.

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm lost lol
 
hmm thanks but could you, or somebody else, answer the question in post 2?
 
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Nikitin said:
ah damn, I haven't learned about directional vectors this year. but i was reminded about that stuff by a friend who helped me with this assignment.

So, if I divide [a,b,c] by the length of the directional vector, sqrt(a^2 + b^2 + c^2) and then multiply it by the length of the OP vector, |d|/sqrt(a^2 + b^2 + c^2), I get:

a|d|/a^2 + b^2 + c^2, b|d|/a^2 + b^2 + c^2, c|d|/a^2 + b^2 + c^2 = P.

The answer is supposed to be (-ad/a^2 + b^2 + c^2,-bd/a^2 + b^2 + c^2,-cd/a^2 + b^2 + c^2) = P

*sigh* does this have something to do with all the fools sometimes saying a plane's equation is ax+by+cz -d = 0 instead of ax+by+cz +d = 0 ? or that d is negative if the directional vector is positive?

has been a really long day at school + after 4 me and I'm sleepy as hell.. hope somebody can fill me in tomorrow

Can somebody explain to me the logic of why the answer should be negative [like this: (-ad/a^2 + b^2 + c^2,-bd/a^2 + b^2 + c^2,-cd/a^2 + b^2 + c^2) = P], and not in absolutes [like this (-ad/a^2 + b^2 + c^2,-bd/a^2 + b^2 + c^2,-cd/a^2 + b^2 + c^2) = P]?

I believe the absolutes answer is plain wrong.
 

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