Orthogonal complement of the intersection of 2 planes

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The problem involves finding a basis for and the dimension of the orthogonal complement of the intersection of two planes defined by the equations x-y+z=0 and x+y+z=0. The discussion centers around the concepts of orthogonal complements and basis vectors in the context of linear algebra.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the parameterization of the intersection of the planes and the implications for the orthogonal complement. Questions arise regarding the dimensionality of the orthogonal complement and the correct identification of basis vectors.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of the basis for the orthogonal complement. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for independent vectors, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct basis or dimensionality yet.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the terminology used, particularly the term "null space," which some participants feel is not applicable in this context. Additionally, there is a discussion about the constraints needed to define the intersection as a line.

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Homework Statement


Let W be the intersection of the two planes: x-y+z=0 and x+y+z=0
Find a basis for and the dimension of the orthogonal complement, W

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The Attempt at a Solution


The line x+z=0 intersects the plane, which is parameterized as t(1, 0, -1)
Then W is the plane x-z=0
Then the nullspace of this plane is (1, 0, 1) which is the basis for W
And the dimension is 1?
Am I even in the right ballpark here? :D
 
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fattycakez said:
The line x+z=0
You need a constraint on y as well to make it a line (but you got that right in the parametric form).
fattycakez said:
Then W is the plane x-z=0
Correct.
fattycakez said:
Then the nullspace of this plane is (1, 0, 1) which is the basis for W
The only context I know for the term null space is in connection with transformations, and there is no transformation being discussed here.
The vector you state is a basis for W.
 
haruspex said:
You need a constraint on y as well to make it a line (but you got that right in the parametric form).

Correct.

The only context I know for the term null space is in connection with transformations, and there is no transformation being discussed here.
The vector you state is a basis for W.

Okay sweet!
So if (1,0,1) is the basis for W, shouldn't there be one more basis vector since W is a plane and a plane is 2 dimensional?
 
fattycakez said:
So if (1,0,1) is the basis for W
No, I wrote that it is a basis for W, not W.
 
haruspex said:
No, I wrote that it is a basis for W, not W.
Okay so how do you find the basis for W then?
 
fattycakez said:
Okay so how do you find the basis for W then?
It's not 'the' basis, it's 'a' basis.
You correctly stated the constraint for it, x=z. You just need two independent vectors in it.
 

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