How Do You Determine the Kinetic Energy of a Satellite in Orbit?

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The discussion revolves around determining the kinetic energy of satellites in circular orbits, specifically focusing on a 100 kg satellite at an altitude of 3500 km above Earth's surface, where the acceleration due to gravity is given as 4.09 m/s². Participants are exploring the relationships between mass, speed, and gravitational forces in the context of orbital mechanics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relevance of gravitational forces and centripetal motion in calculating kinetic energy. Some express confusion regarding the application of work-energy principles and the implications of circular motion on potential and kinetic energy.

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Some participants have suggested methods for calculating kinetic energy using the formula KE = 1/2 mv², while others have raised questions about the validity of their approaches and the assumptions made regarding gravitational forces. There is an acknowledgment of differing results based on the methods applied, indicating an ongoing exploration of the problem.

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Participants note that the problems discussed are sourced from a reference book, which may impose specific constraints or assumptions relevant to the calculations. There is mention of varying gravitational acceleration at different altitudes, which is a point of contention in the calculations presented.

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1. A 100 kg satellite is placed in a circular orbit 3500 km above the surface of earth. At this elevation the acceleration of gravity is 4.09m/s[tex]_{2}[/tex]. Determine the kinetic energy of the satellite , knowing that its orbitial speed is 22.9 x10[tex]_{3}[/tex]km/h

The answer:30.3 GJ


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I have drawn the free- body diagram, but I still don't know how to approach this problem.
I have considerd that :
1) THere is no work done on satellite by the earth. since the satellite is in cicular motion
so, I cannot use W=Fs to consider ??
2) No PE change, No KE change
so, I cannot use TE=KE+PE to consider??
3) Finally, this is a gravitation problem??

I try my best to recall what I have learned in secondary school, however, I sill haven't any idea on this..

Please help
 
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If both mass and speed is given, then what's the problem in finding the KE? I think the speed should automatically come out from the other given data. So, I'll treat it as if you don't know thw speed.

The centripetal force should be equal to its weight.
So, mv^2/r = mg ==> v^2 = rg.
Now can you find mv^2/2?
 
Thanks for your reply, I can solve the problem by this method now
1) KE = 1/2 mv[tex]_{2}[/tex]
where mass is known
2) F[tex]^{c}[/tex]=F[tex]^{g}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{mv_{2}}{r}[/tex]= mg
3)the ration between the surface of Earth and at that specific height above the surface of the earth
g is inverse proportion to r[tex]_{2}[/tex]

so I can get the answer correctly,
but I found another similar< actually the same> problem
and I use this method again, however i cannot get the right answer

Is above solution wrong?


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The similar problem is that:

1. A 400 kg satellite is placed in a circular orbit 6394km above the surface of earth. At this elevation the acceleration of gravity is 2.45m/s. Determine the kinetic energy of the satellite , knowing that its orbitial speed is 20000km/h

The answer:1.11MJ

so sorry that some mistakes are found on the first post


1. A 1500 kg satellite is placed in a circular orbit 3500 km above the surface of earth. At this elevation the acceleration of gravity is 4.09m/s^2. Determine the kinetic energy of the satellite , knowing that its orbitial speed is 22.9 x10^3km/h

The answer:30.3 GJ
 
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Please understand that KE is mv^2/2 and if the mass and speed both are given, you can find the KE simply by calculating mv^2/2. All the other data are irrelevant. So, the step 1 in your calc is enough. For your 1st prob, this gives a result of 32 KJ.

(For using Fc=mg, you have to assume some value for the radius of the earth. Taking 6370 km, I got KE = 2 GJ.)

Can you tell me in what context you obtained these problems?
 
THese problems are come from the reference book
"Vector Mechanics for Engineers - Dynamics" "Mc Graw - Hill"
 

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