How Do You Differentiate tan-1(xy) in Implicit Differentiation?

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The problem involves finding the derivative y' using implicit differentiation for the equation tan-1(xy) = 1 + x²y. The subject area is calculus, specifically focusing on implicit differentiation and the application of the chain and product rules.

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  • Participants discuss the differentiation of tan-1(xy) and the application of implicit differentiation. There are attempts to clarify the correct use of the chain rule and product rule in this context. Some participants question the initial differentiation steps and seek to verify their calculations.

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Several participants have provided guidance on the differentiation process, particularly regarding the use of the chain rule and product rule. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct form of the derivative, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their results and seeking confirmation from others.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the differentiation of tan-1(xy) and the proper application of rules, which may affect the clarity of the discussion. Participants are also addressing potential typos and misunderstandings in their previous statements.

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Homework Statement



Find y' given
tan-1(xy) = 1 + x2y

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The Attempt at a Solution


I know I'll have to start with implicit differentiation, and I can differentiate the RHS to be:
0 + 2xy + x2(dy/dx)

And I know tan-1 x = 1/(1+x2), but I don't know how to differentiate tan-1 (xy) implicitly!
 
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Ambidext said:

Homework Statement



Find y' given
tan-1(xy) = 1 + x2y

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


I know I'll have to start with implicit differentiation, and I can differentiate the RHS to be:
0 + 2xy + x2(dy/dx)

And I know tan-1 x = 1/(1+x2)
Then you know something that isn't true. What is true, though, is that
d/dx(tan-1(x)) = 1/(1 + x2).
Ambidext said:
, but I don't know how to differentiate tan-1 (xy) implicitly!
All you really need to do is to use the chain rule and the product rule.

d/dx(tan-1 (xy)) = 1/(1 + (xy)2)) * d/dx(xy)

Can you finish this?
 
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Yes, I had a typo. I meant d/dx tan-1 x = 1 / (1 + x2)

Ok I think I can now.
 
I got:

dy/dx = (2xy(1 + x2y2) / ( 1 - 2x)

Am I correct?
 
That's not what I get. Can you show your work?
 
d/dx tan-1 xy = d/dx ( 1 + x2 y)

dy/dx (xy) (1/(1 + x2y2) = 0 + 2xy2 + dy/dx (2y) x2

Rearrange to make dy/dx subject of formula, I got:

dy/dx (xy / (1 + x2y2 - 2yx2) = 2x2y2

dy/dx = 2x2y2 / ((xy)/(1+x2y2) - 2yx2)

dy/dx = 2xy / ( (1-2x) / (1+x2y2)

dy/dx = 2xy( 1 + x2y2) / ( 1 -2x)
 
Ambidext said:
d/dx tan-1 xy = d/dx ( 1 + x2 y)

dy/dx (xy) (1/(1 + x2y2) = 0 + 2xy2 + dy/dx (2y) x2
You went astray right off the bat. d/dx(tan-1(u)) = 1/(1 + u2) * du/dx

In this case, u = xy, so you need to use the product rule to get d/dx(xy).
Ambidext said:
Rearrange to make dy/dx subject of formula, I got:

dy/dx (xy / (1 + x2y2 - 2yx2 = 2x2y2

dy/dx = 2x2y2 / ((xy)/(1+x2y2) - 2yx2)

dy/dx = 2xy / ( (1-2x) / (1+x2y2)

dy/dx = 2xy( 1 + x2y2) / ( 1 -2x)
 
So,
d/dx tan-1 u = 1/(1 + u2) (du/dx)


u = yx
du/dx = x(dy/dx) + y

Thus I get:
d/dx tan-1 (xy) = 1/(1 + x2y2) (y + x (dy/dx)

Correct so far?
 

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