How do you exactly calculate the theoretical maximum efficiency of an LED?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around calculating the theoretical maximum efficiency of LEDs, specifically focusing on luminous efficacy in relation to color rendering index (CRI) and correlated color temperature (CCT). Participants explore the formulas and variables involved in these calculations, as well as the practical implications of these metrics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion over the variables needed to calculate luminous efficacy, referencing a specific value of 370 lm/W from another source.
  • Another participant questions the validity of the 370 lm/W figure, citing different values from Wikipedia (299 or 343 lm/W) for luminous efficacy.
  • A participant seeks clarification on how to apply the luminous efficacy formula with specific values for CRI and CCT, asking for an example calculation.
  • One participant discusses the need for understanding radiometric efficiency and the spectral output of the source to convert Watts to Lumens.
  • There is mention of the importance of the distribution of emitted radiation and its impact on the efficiency calculation.
  • Participants note that CRI is a crude specification for the spectral profile, while CCT serves as a black-body equivalent metric.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the specific values for luminous efficacy or the best approach to calculate it. Multiple competing views and uncertainties about the formulas and their applications remain evident throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of clarity on how to derive luminous efficacy from CRI and CCT, as well as the dependence on specific definitions and assumptions regarding the spectral output and efficiency metrics.

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Hi!

I found interesting post here:
https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/325762/how-efficient-are-leds
However, it only gives the final results and not the steps he made. I tried to learn the formulas on wikipedia on my own but I couldn't figure out what variables need to have what values.

For example in that linked post the author stated:
Maximum for CRI=95 at 2800 K: 370 lm/W
If I have CRI=a and temperature = b, what would be maximum lm/w? PS sorry if it is in wrong forum, was a bit confused where to exactly post it.
 
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It's not I who got 370 lm/W. I simply copied it from the post that I linked. I was asking how to calculate these. This formula got me confused because it has many variables for which I don't know value. I was asking that if I have CRI=a and CCT=b then how would this formula look like? For example how do I calculatelm/W if CRI = 95 and CCT=1800k?
 
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Interesting question. I am looking forward for how it is calculated practically.
 
HomeExperiement said:
I found interesting post here:
https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/325762/how-efficient-are-ledsIf I have CRI=a and temperature = b, what would be maximum lm/w? PS sorry if it is in wrong forum, was a bit confused where to exactly post it.

I'm not entirely sure what you are asking (efficiency of electrical power in converted to visible light out?), but this Wiki page has some info:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminous_efficacy#Photopic_vision
First off, your eye is not uniformly sensitive to all wavelengths of light: the unit 'lumen' is what you get when you start with the radiometric unit 'Watt' and spectrally weight it by the human eye response, which is normalized to the response at 555nm. So, for example, 'cold' blackbodies primarily radiate in the IR and so emit no lumens (0 lm/W) and as the blackbody temperature inceases, the luminous efficacy also increases until the peak emission wavelength again passes out of the visible range (towards the UV).

So, in order to start to answer your question, you need the radiometric efficiency (Watts of electricity to Watts of light) and the spectral output of the source, to convert Watts to Lumens.

But wait, there's more: since the LED is an extended source, you also need to know how the emitted radiation is distributed in angle- a point source radiates equally in all 4π steradians, a Lambertian source radiates differently, etc. etc. How much of the radiated light is transmitted forward into the optical system? What is the relative orientation between the axis 'normal' to the LED and the axis of the detector?

Now, as for the CRI/CCT specifications: The CRI (color rendering index, for those of you playing at home) is a crude way of specifying the spectral profile of the source (which can be continuous or discrete). The CCT (correlated color temperature) is a sort of 'black-body equivalent' metric for the source.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_rendering_indexhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_temperature#Correlated_color_temperature
I'm not sure if a CRI spec can easily be made to generate a luminous efficiency value; CCT may be a better metric to use.
 

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