How Do You Find a Basis for the Subspace Orthogonal to a Given Vector in ℝ3?

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The discussion revolves around finding a basis for the subspace of ℝ3 that is orthogonal to the vector (1,2,3). Participants are exploring how to describe this subspace and identify its basis.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the given vector and the subspace, questioning how to describe the set S and whether it represents a line or a plane. Some suggest using the dot product to demonstrate orthogonality, while others consider the implications of row reducing a matrix formed by vectors.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with various approaches being suggested. Some participants have provided insights into the nature of the subspace, indicating it spans R^2, while others are still clarifying their understanding of orthogonality and the geometric interpretation of the subspace.

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There is a focus on understanding the dimensionality of the subspace and the implications of the orthogonality condition. Participants are also considering the constraints of the problem, such as the requirement for linear independence in forming a basis.

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Homework Statement


Let S, a subspace of ℝ3 be the set of vectors orthogonal to vector (1,2,3)
a)describe Set S
b) find a basis for Set S

2. Relevant Equations

That a basis has to be linearly independent and span R^3

The Attempt at a Solution


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I would do this:
I know that vector (1,2,3) is the cross product of 2 vectors v1xv2
so I could put it in a matrix (where v1=a,b,c and v2=d,e,f)

a b c
d e f

But I am lost as to describe set S... Wouldn't I need to row reduce to see which variable is free, and then I could say whether or not it is a line or a plane ( well the dimension)
 
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MarcL said:

Homework Statement


Let S, a subspace of ℝ3 be the set of vectors orthogonal to vector (1,2,3)
a)describe Set S
b) find a basis for Set S

2. Relevant Equations

That a basis has to be linearly independent and span R^3

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
I would do this:
I know that vector (1,2,3) is the cross product of 2 vectors v1xv2
so I could put it in a matrix (where v1=a,b,c and v2=d,e,f)

a b c
d e f
What's another way to show that an arbitrary vector <x, y, z> is orthogonal to a given vector <1, 2, 3>?
MarcL said:
But I am lost as to describe set S... Wouldn't I need to row reduce to see which variable is free, and then I could say whether or not it is a line or a plane ( well the dimension)
If you take constant multiples of the given vector <1, 2, 3>, what sort of geometric object do you get? What's the dimension of this subspace?
 
What you attempt is to find a,b,c,d,e,f such that (a,b,c) x (d,e,f) = (1,2,3)
Might seem reasonable, but it's a bit tedious: you want to find six variables from three equations. And you don't really need the lengths (that comes in part b).

Orthogonal to a vector ##\vec v## is anything that has ##\vec a \cdot \vec v = 0 ## with ##|\vec a| > 0\;##. That's only one equation with three unknowns.
Pick a vector v1 that satisfies that equation.
Pick a different one and call that v2.
I think then you have a basis already according to this link (exercise doesn't ask for orthogonal or orthonormal basis !)

But if you do want them orthonormal you can do v1 x (1,2,3) to get a v2 that is perpendicular to both.
Then normalize v1 and v2.

Re describing S: Why do you think there is the possibility that S is a line ?
 
Ah I see what you're getting at, once I've found two indepedent solutions i can just put it in a matrix and solve it. I see what you mean by not spanning R^3 too. it will span R^2 if I understand correctly.

Mark44 said:
What's another way to show that an arbitrary vector <x, y, z> is orthogonal to a given vector <1, 2, 3>?

I could also find the dot product, apart from that I am not too sure what I could use to prove the orthogonality. Geometrically speaking it is a plane, so the vector would be the normal.

As for the post above me, I meant in any case ( wasn't solved and I wasn't entirely sure). However, I expected it to be a plane.
 
The dot product is the primary tool to show orthogonality.

Yes, set S is a plane.
 

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