How Do You Find the Roots of b - tan(b) = 0 Using Iterative Methods?

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The discussion focuses on finding the roots of the equation b - tan(b) = 0 using iterative methods, exploring numerical approximation techniques rather than graphical solutions.

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  • One participant inquires about methods to find the roots without graphing the functions y = b and y = tan(b).
  • Another participant suggests using Newton's Method as a numerical approximation technique, encouraging further research on the topic.
  • A different participant mentions that there are infinitely many roots and proposes using Newton's method along with asymptotic expansions for large values of b, specifically noting approximate roots at pi/2 + n*pi for large n.
  • One participant provides specific initial estimates for iterations, defining c_m as (2m + 1)/2 * pi and suggesting initial estimates b^(0) based on values of u for increasing accuracy.

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Participants present multiple approaches and initial estimates for finding roots, indicating that there is no consensus on a single method or solution. Various techniques and initial conditions are discussed without resolution.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the behavior of tan(b) and the choice of initial estimates for iterative methods, which may depend on the specific context of the problem.

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How would you find the roots of:
b - tan (b) = 0

please do not that i have to plot the graphs of y=b and y=tan b and then i should find the solution. I want to know how to do it the other way.
thank you
 
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rsaad said:
How would you find the roots of:
b - tan (b) = 0

please do not that i have to plot the graphs of y=b and y=tan b and then i should find the solution. I want to know how to do it the other way.
Another way, besides a graphical solution, is to use a numerical approximation technique such as Newton's Method (also known as Newton-Raphson). If you want to find out more, you can do a web search, which should generate lots of hits.
 
There are an infinite number. You can use an iterative method like Newton's mathod. There are also some asymptotic expansions, the large values of x are approximately pi/2+n pi for some large n.
 
For some iteration initial estimates, consider the following:

Let
[tex] c_m = \frac{2\,m + 1}{2} \, \pi[/tex]

Then let the initial estimate [itex]b^{(0)}[/itex] be given by
[tex] b^{(0)} = c_m - u[/tex]

Three possible initial estimates, in increasing accuracy, can be given by the three separate values of u as follows

[tex]u_2 = \frac{1}{c_m}[/tex]
[tex]u_3 = \frac{1}{c_m} + \frac{1}{c_m^3}[/tex]
[tex]u_5 = \frac{1}{c_m} + \frac{2}{3}\, \frac{1}{c_m^3}[/tex]
 

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