How do you find the time-dependent wavefunction for a particle on a ring?

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The discussion revolves around finding the time-dependent wavefunction for a particle on a ring, starting from a given initial wavefunction at time t=0. The original poster presents a specific wavefunction and seeks guidance on how to evolve it in time.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the need to express the initial wavefunction as a sum of energy eigenfunctions and how to apply the time evolution operator. Questions arise about the correct form of the energy eigenfunctions and the coefficients needed for the summation.

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There is an ongoing exploration of how to express the initial wavefunction in terms of energy eigenfunctions. Some participants have provided insights into the form of the eigenfunctions and the relationship between the initial wavefunction and its time evolution, but no consensus has been reached on the complete method.

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Participants note potential confusion regarding the constants involved in the wavefunction and the correct interpretation of the energy terms. There is also a mention of normalization and the need for clarity on the summation form of the wavefunction.

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If given, for instance, psi(phi, 0)=[1/sqrt(2pi)](cos^2(phi/2) + isin(phi)), which is the wavefunction at t=0, how do you go about finding the wavefunction at time t, psi(phi,t)??

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Would it simply be psi(phi, t)=psi(phi,0)e^(-iEt/hbar)??

The given wavefunction is for a particle on a ring... and for that, E_n=(hbar^2)(m^2)/(2I) where I=mr^2. Is that the value of "E" I plug into the above equation??

Is there any other constant that I have to multiply the psi(phi,t) equation by as a result of adding on the e^(-iEt/hbar) term??

Any help would be great, I'm not entirely sure if I get this :-/
 
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In general, you have to write the initial wave function as a sum of energy eigenfunctions with suitable coefficients. Then, as time evolves, each term gets multiplied by e^(-iE_n t/hbar), where E_n is the eigenenergy of that eigenfunction.
 
I'm not sure how to express psi (phi, 0) as a sum of energy eigenfunctions in this case...
 
What are the energy eigenfunctions?

If it's a free particle on a ring, they should be e^(i n phi), n=...,-1,0,+1,..., up to normalization. (The m^2 in your E_n should be n^2, no?)

Your psi(phi,0) is some trig functions; can you express these in terms of complex exponentials?
 
yes and yes. (1/sqrt(2pi))e^(i n phi) is the eigenfunction. and I really meant n^2 when I said m^2 previously...

I just expressed my psi(phi, 0) in exponential terms. The psi I gave in the original post left out some constants, but when I do take into account those:

psi(phi,0)=sqrt(1/4pi) (e^(i phi) + 1)

but how does this get into a summation form..? :-/
 
It already is in a summation form. You have

psi(phi,0) = (1/sqrt(2))( psi_1(phi) + psi_0(phi) ),

where psi_n(phi) is the eigenfunction.
 

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