How do you get a matrix from this basis?

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The discussion revolves around understanding how to derive a matrix representation from a given basis in the context of linear algebra, specifically focusing on transformations and their effects on vectors. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the relationship between the basis and the resulting matrix B.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the interpretation of matrix B in relation to the basis and question how to express vectors in the standard basis from the given basis. There are inquiries about the transformation properties and the implications of applying the transformation to specific vectors.

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Some participants have offered insights into the nature of the transformation and its representation in different bases. The conversation includes various interpretations of the problem, with no explicit consensus reached on the best approach to derive the matrix.

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There is mention of the abstract nature of the topic, with participants acknowledging the complexity of the material and the potential for multiple interpretations of the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


Here's my problem. I only need help with the bottom part, but if you could explain the problem more vividly that would help too.
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Homework Equations


A = S-1BS (?)
There aren't really any relevant equations. This part of linear algebra is getting really abstract, at least I think so. If there are any equations, I'm not aware of them.

The Attempt at a Solution


The problem I'm assigned for homework is very similar to this. I'm almost sure I got the answer right, but I don't completely understand the question. Why does the basis give that specific matrix B? What do you do with the basis to get B?
 
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Hello BS, welcome to PF :smile: !

Your hitting an extremely important subject in physics, math, engineering and what have you here !

Unfortunately, the explanation given in your text is already quite clear, so I find it difficult to add to it meaningfully.

Do you have any problem with the interpretation of matrix B on the basis of ##\mathfrak {B}## ?

How do you write vectors that are written as ##(\lambda, \mu)## on the basis of ##\mathfrak {B}## if you have to write them on the usual basis on ##\Re^2## ?

And if you apply the transformation B to ##(\lambda, \mu)## what do you get? And how does it look in ##\Re^2## ?

The other way around: what do you do to find the ##(\lambda, \mu)## corresponding to a vector ##(x, y)## in ##\Re^2## ?

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Sorry about the ##\Re##, looks awful. Someone will know which fonts are available here, but I have trouble finding out

[edit] ah, found \mathbb : ##\mathbb R##
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Perhaps I can save a few words with a picture:

VecTransf.jpg

T is reflection about the line spanned by (2,3).
What is T of vector ##\vec v = (5,2)## ?

We found that T is diagonal on a basis ##\mathfrak B## consisting of ##\vec e_1 = (2,3)## and ##\vec e_2 = (-3,2)##
with ##T(\vec e_1) = (1) \vec e_1## and ##T(\vec e_2) = (-1) \vec e_1##
T is linear, which means that
the projection ##\lambda \vec e_1## of ##\vec v## on ##\vec e_1##
transforms into ##\lambda T(\vec e_1) = \lambda \vec e_1##

and the projection ##\mu \vec e_2## of ##\vec v## on ##\vec e_2##
transforms into ##\mu T(\vec e_2) = - \mu \vec e_2##
 
bartersnarter said:

Homework Equations


A = S-1BS (?)
There aren't really any relevant equations. This part of linear algebra is getting really abstract, at least I think so. If there are any equations, I'm not aware of them.
The formula for the ##\mathfrak B##-matrix of ##T## (for arbitrary ##\mathfrak B##) is certainly relevant.
 

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