How do you put a uniform charge on an insulator?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around methods for applying a uniform charge to the surface of insulating materials, specifically focusing on hollow spheres. Participants explore both theoretical and experimental approaches to achieve this, contrasting it with the charging of conducting materials.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that to charge an insulating hollow sphere, one might need to physically spray charge onto it.
  • Another participant proposes ionizing surface atoms as a potential method for charging the insulator.
  • A participant expresses interest in conducting an experiment to measure the mass of an electron within a charged spherical insulator, theorizing that the electrostatic energy could affect the electron's mass.
  • It is noted that while there is no perfect insulator, some materials have very high resistance, which could influence the time required for charge equalization on the sphere.
  • One participant mentions that a small amount of current would be sufficient to equalize charge on a high-resistance insulator, suggesting that the time frame for this process would be relatively short.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views on how to achieve uniform charging of insulating materials, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the most effective method.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the assumption that all materials have some level of conductivity and the dependence on specific material properties, which may not be fully addressed in the discussion.

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To put a uniform charge on the surface of a conducting hollow sphere one just needs to touch it at one point with an electrode.

To put a uniform charge on the surface of an insulating hollow sphere, do you have to somehow physically spray charge all over it?
 
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Yes. You might also try to ionize surface atoms.
What for?
 
maimonides said:
Yes. You might also try to ionize surface atoms.
What for?

I would like to do some of experiment to measure the mass of an electron inside a charged spherical insulator. I think 1/2 the electrostatic energy between the electron and the charged shell would reside in the field around the electron and would therefore make it heavier.

If we could make the electron heavy then we could make small atoms with these heavy electrons. Small atoms might fuse much more easily than normal size ones.

That's it - I want to solve the world's energy problems and climate change problems. ;)
 
johne1618 said:
To put a uniform charge on the surface of a conducting hollow sphere one just needs to touch it at one point with an electrode.

To put a uniform charge on the surface of an insulating hollow sphere, do you have to somehow physically spray charge all over it?

There is no such thing as a perfect insulator, some materials just have extremely high resistance. Since the total charge on the sphere would be relatively small very little current would need to flow on the sphere in order for the charge to equalize. While the time for a small charge to flow through high resistance would be greater then low resistance I believe the time frame would be a few minutes at the most.
 

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