How do you "read" this formula?

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The discussion focuses on understanding the formula for calculating the centroid of an object using integrals, particularly when the integral lacks explicit upper bounds. The centroid is defined as the sum of the centroids of smaller geometric shapes divided by the total area. The integral notation indicates integration over the entire area A, which requires determining the appropriate limits and area element dA based on the coordinate system used. The conversation emphasizes the flexibility in choosing coordinates, such as Cartesian or others, to accommodate various shapes.

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No actual work, could just use some assistance in understanding formulas involving the centroid of an object, specifically with integrals. For example, how would you understand the following formula(s) (as seen in part 2)? I understand that the centroid is the sum of all the centroids of its smaller shapes (quadrilaterals, triangles, other simple geometrical shapes, etc.) divided by the total area (2-D).

This same formula (or a similar variant) can be used to also find centre of gravity, centroid of a line, 3-D object (volume), etc.

My primary confusion comes from the integral without an upper bound. How is that perceived / computed (in general given that I have not provided a specific problem).

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Thank you, any help is much appreciated
 
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When the integral is written like that, it means the integral over the entire area A. It is a shorthand which is meant to apply regardless of the shape of the area A. In order to actually do the integral, it is up to you to figure out the limits on x and y which cover the whole area, and to figure out the area element dA. In rectangular coordinates, dA = dx*dy, but in other coordinate systems it will be different.
 
MyNameIsNicholas said:
My primary confusion comes from the integral without an upper bound.
The subscript A indicates an integral over the area A, whatever size and shape that is. It is effectively a double integral, but you get to choose the coordinates and how to express the bounds. For a rectangular region, no doubt you would choose Cartesian coordinates, rotated as necessary to align with the boundaries. For complicated shapes you can break it into a sum of integrals, maybe using different coordinates in each piece.
 

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