How Do You Separate Complex Equations into Real and Imaginary Parts?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves separating the complex equation z^3 + 5z^2 = z + 3i into its real and imaginary components. The subject area pertains to complex numbers and algebraic manipulation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss expanding the equation and grouping real and imaginary parts. Some express uncertainty about their algebraic manipulations and seek hints for clarification. There is a mention of needing to understand the conditions under which complex numbers are equal.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts at manipulation and questioning their own understanding. Some guidance has been offered regarding the conditions for equality of complex numbers, but no consensus has been reached on the approach to take.

Contextual Notes

There is a reference to potential algebraic errors and the need for a deeper understanding of definitions related to complex numbers. Participants express a sense of frustration and a desire for further hints.

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Homework Statement



Write z^3 + 5 z^2 = z + 3i as two real equations

Homework Equations



z=a+bi?

The Attempt at a Solution



I've been just playing around with this. I expanded, grouped the real and imaginary parts. I'm really just think I'm groping around desperately in the dark.
I think I'm just missing something basic. Any hints would be greatly appreciated. Until then I'll be having a head butting contest with the sidewalk.
 
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I would just expand out and group as well...as in the form z=A+Bi both A and B are real so...
 
Okay.
So far I did this, I don't think there's any basic algebraic errors though it wouldn't be the first time.
(a+bi)^3 + 5(a+bi)^2 = a + bi + 3i
==> (a^3 +3 a^2 bi - 3ab^2-b^3 i) + (5a^2 +10abi-db^2) = a+bi+3i
==> (a^3-3ab^2+5a^2-5b^2-a)+(3a^2b-b^3+10ab-b-3)i=0
so somehow I have to use some mathematical magic to make that i disappear? Is this just a question that I need to play around with algebraically for a while?

Alright Kenton vs the Sidewalk round two
 
Assuming you did that right, then x+iy=0 (for x and y real) only if x=0 and y=0. That's two real equations.
 
And also you did not really need to bring everything over to one side to make it equal to zero. Remember that two complex numbers are equal iff their real and imaginary parts are the same.
 
k3N70n said:
Okay.
So far I did this, I don't think there's any basic algebraic errors though it wouldn't be the first time.
(a+bi)^3 + 5(a+bi)^2 = a + bi + 3i
==> (a^3 +3 a^2 bi - 3ab^2-b^3 i) + (5a^2 +10abi-db^2) = a+bi+3i
==> (a^3-3ab^2+5a^2-5b^2-a)+(3a^2b-b^3+10ab-b-3)i=0
so somehow I have to use some mathematical magic to make that i disappear? Is this just a question that I need to play around with algebraically for a while?

Alright Kenton vs the Sidewalk round two
It's a problem where you need to know the definitions. Under what conditions on x and y is x+ iy= 0?
 

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