How Do You Simplify Complex Logarithmic Expressions?

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The discussion revolves around simplifying complex logarithmic expressions and understanding their properties. Participants are exploring various logarithmic identities and their applications in different contexts.

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  • Participants are attempting to simplify logarithmic expressions using identities such as ln(xy) and ln(x/y). Questions about the correctness of initial attempts and how to connect different logarithmic forms are raised. There is also a query about graphing logarithmic functions and understanding their asymptotes.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to simplify logarithmic expressions and have clarified the meaning of terms used in the problems. There is ongoing exploration of connections between different logarithmic forms, with some participants expressing uncertainty about how to proceed.

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Hi.

Could someone please help me with the following questions? I'm totally stuck so any feedback would be really appreciated. I'll post the questions one at a time.

Express as single log. functions:

(i) ln (x + 1) - 3 ln (1 - x) + 2 ln x


I got up to ln ( (x + 1) / (1 - x)^3 ) / ln x^2 but I don't know what to do next or whether this is even correct.

Thank you.

Cathy
 
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Using the identity ln(xy) = ln x + ln y, one can extend it to ln (xyz) = ln x + ln y + ln z, and ln (x/y) = ln x - ln y.

So in the problem ln (x + 1) - 3 ln (1 - x) + 2 ln x

one obtains ln [(x+1)/(1-x)3] + ln x2 which can be further simplified by bringing x2 inside the logarithm operation.

ln [(x+1)x2/(1-x)3]

Reference: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Logarithm.html
 
Thanks so much for your help.

Cathy
 
Could someone please give me a tip for how to answer this one as I've no idea what to do? I'd really appreciate it.

Given ln (xy^3) = m and ln (x(^3)y(^2)) = n, find ln root(xy) in terms of m and n.

Cathy
 
By root (xy), does one mean [itex]\sqrt{xy}[/itex]?

If so, then ln (xy)1/2 = 1/2 ln xy = 1/2 (ln x + ln y)

and one also needs to exand the equations ln (xy3) = ln x + 3 ln y = m, and similarly for the other equation, then rearrage to x and y in terms of m and n.
 
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Yeah, that's what I meant. I just don't understand how to connect that to m and n.
 
Oh, I've got that one now.

I have one last query and that is how to draw the graphs (and asymptotes) of y = 2 + ln x and y = - ln (x - 3).

Thank you.

Cathy
 
Well, certain as x gets very large, y = (2 + ln x) ~ ln x,

and similarly as x gets very large, i.e. x >> a, then x+a ~ x.

Also, think of the range for ln (3-x).
 

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