How Do You Solve a Double Atwood Machine Problem with Unequal Masses?

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The discussion focuses on solving a double Atwood machine problem with unequal masses: m1=2.0kg, m2=3.0kg, and m3=8.0kg. The net force was calculated as F=8g-3g-2g=3g, leading to an acceleration of a=F/m=3g/13kg=2.26m/s². However, the solution requires free-body diagrams (FBD) for all masses, particularly for m3, which does not tilt. The problem is clarified as being equivalent to a normal Atwood machine rather than a double Atwood machine.

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Homework Statement


If the masses for a double Atwood machine similar to the own shown in the attached picture are m1=2.0kg, m2=3.0kg, and m3=8.0kg: (a) what is the magnitude of the acceleration of the system and (b) how would you draw free-body diagrams for this problem?

NOTE: m3 does not tilt. Also, two strings will have two tensions.

Homework Equations


F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


I found the net force by using: F=8g-3g-2g=3g. Then I added the masses to get 13kg. a=F/m=3g/13kg=2.26m/s^2. The problem however, is that I know my professor won't take this. She'll want to see drawings of FBD first (which I managed to draw FBD for m1 and m2 but am not sure how to draw m3), and for me to use tensions as well. I'm not really sure how to do it that way.
 

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dsfrankl said:
I found the net force by using: F=8g-3g-2g=3g.
This is the net force on what?

dsfrankl said:
which I managed to draw FBD for m1 and m2
So what did the free body diagrams for m1 and m2 tell you?

dsfrankl said:
am not sure how to draw m3
What forces act on ##m_3##?

Furthermore, think about what correlations among the accelerations of the masses that you can write down.

Also note that this is not what would typically be called a double Atwood machine. This is a double Atwood machine:
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What you have is actually equivalent to a normal Atwood machine.
 

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