How Do You Solve Implicit Differentiation for y = sin(xy)?

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The problem involves implicit differentiation of the equation y = sin(xy), focusing on finding dy/dx. Participants are discussing the application of differentiation rules, particularly the chain rule, in the context of implicit functions.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to differentiate both sides of the equation and are exploring how to apply the chain rule correctly. Some are questioning the initial steps and seeking clarification on the differentiation process.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the differentiation process, with some participants providing guidance on applying the chain rule. Multiple interpretations of the differentiation steps are being discussed, and there is no explicit consensus on the approach yet.

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Some participants express confusion about the notation used for differentiation and the application of the chain rule in the context of implicit differentiation. There are also references to specific steps that may not be clear to all participants.

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1. y = sinxy



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3. this was my attempt

d/dx = (cosxy)(sinxy(d\dx))+(xy(d/dx)




im getting stuck. i don't think I am starting it right. any suggestions.
 
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Some notes:

Remember that you're solving for dy/dx. Look for terms that will contain this.

Remember the chain rule for explicit differentiation: d/dx f(g(x)) = g'(x)*f'(g(x)). How do you apply the chain rule when you have f(g(x, y(x)))?
 
jmcelve said:
Some notes:

Remember that you're solving for dy/dx. Look for terms that will contain this.

Remember the chain rule for explicit differentiation: d/dx f(g(x)) = g'(x)*f'(g(x)). How do you apply the chain rule when you have f(g(x, y(x)))?


is it like this?

y(d/dx) = cosxy(cosxy(d/dx))(x(d/dx))(y(1))
 
Sorry, I'm not really following your steps. Can you maybe show me step-by-step what you're doing?
 
use sin^-1 (y)=xy and then differentiate both sides
 
jmcelve said:
Sorry, I'm not really following your steps. Can you maybe show me step-by-step what you're doing?

im trying to do this f(g(x, y(x)))

for the left side
 
Your overall goal is to find dy/dx, right? So you need to apply d/dx to both sides of the equation -- d/dx (y) = d/dx (sin(xy)). The left side is simply y, so you don't need to apply the chain rule -- just take d/dx (y) = dy/dx. The right side requires the chain rule. This is where your composite function is.
 
Don't write "d/dx". You mean "dy/dx" or d(xy)/dx.
When you wrote "d/dx = (cosxy)(sinxy(d\dx))+(xy(d/dx)", you meant
dy/dx= cos(xy)(d(xy)/dx)= cos(xy)((dx/dx)y+ x(dy/dx))
 

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