How Do You Solve the Euler-Lagrange Equation for the Surface of a Cone?

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Homework Statement


The metric for this surface is [itex]ds^2 = dr^2 + r^2\omega^2d\phi^2[/itex], where [itex]\omega = sin(\theta_0)[/itex].
Solve the Euler-Lagrange equation for phi to show that [itex]\dot{\phi} = \frac{k}{\omega^2r^2}[/itex]. Then sub back into the metric to get [itex]\dot{r}[/itex]


Homework Equations


[itex]L = 1/2 g_{ab} \dot{x}^a \dot{x}^b[/itex]


The Attempt at a Solution


I've solved it to get [itex]\ddot{\phi} + 2\frac{\dot{r}}{r}\dot{\phi} = 0[/itex]
and
[itex]\ddot{r} - r\omega^2\dot{\phi}^2 = 0[/itex]

So how on Earth do you get that answer?
 
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gboff21 said:
I've solved it to get [itex]\ddot{\phi} + 2\frac{\dot{r}}{r}\dot{\phi} = 0[/itex]

Note how you got this equation. Back up a step where you must have had ##\frac{d}{dt} (\rm { expression}) = 0##

What can you conclude about the expression?
 
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Ok I get it! [itex]d/dt (\dot{\phi} r^2 \omega^2)=0[/itex]. So [itex]\dot{\phi} = k/(r^2\omega^2)[/itex]
Thanks!