How Do You Solve These Advanced Optics Problems?

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The discussion revolves around advanced optics problems involving polarization, lens magnification, and diffraction patterns. Participants are exploring the relationships between power, intensity, and angles in polarizers, as well as the application of lens formulas and diffraction equations.

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  • Participants are attempting to calculate initial intensity using power and area, questioning the correctness of their methods and formulas. They are also exploring the implications of unpolarized light on their calculations.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about how to approach problems involving magnification and the relationship between object and image distances.
  • Questions arise regarding the angle in the diffraction formula and how to determine the spread of light after passing through a slit.

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Participants are actively engaging with each other's questions and hints, with some providing guidance on how to approach the problems. There is a recognition of the complexity of the issues, and multiple interpretations of the problems are being explored without a clear consensus on solutions.

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Participants note the lack of explicit angles or additional information in some problems, which complicates their ability to apply relevant formulas effectively. There is also mention of homework constraints that may limit the depth of exploration.

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I have been trying to work these out over the last few days and can get part way through but not get to the final answer. So some help would be appreciated http://www.thephysicsforum.com/images/smilies/smile.png

1. An unpolarised light beam of 2mm diameter carrying 4mW of power passes through two polarisers. The intensity after the second polarizer is 75W/m^2. What is the angle between the axes of the two polarisers?
I'm thinking: initial intensity = power/area = 4mW/(4 x pi x (2mm)^2), and then you use final intensity = initial intensity x (cosx)^2, however this gives me the wrong answer from the textbook answer of 70degrees.

2. A diverging lens of focal length 6mm produces an image of magnification of 1/2. What is the distance between the object and lens?
I have no idea how to approach this besides knowing 1/f = 1/di + 1/do and magnification = -di/do (correct answer = 6mm)

3. How many dark fringes can be observed in the diffraction pattern produced by a single slit of width 2.3micrometres with green light of wavelength 535m?
They don't give us the angle so I don't know how to use the formula dsinx= m x wavelength here. (correct answer = 8)

Thanks again
 
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Generally, I would suggest making one thread per question. This will make it easier to help you and keep discussing only one problem per thread instead of mixing them all up. Anyway ...

slaw155 said:
1. An unpolarised light beam of 2mm diameter carrying 4mW of power passes through two polarisers. The intensity after the second polarizer is 75W/m^2. What is the angle between the axes of the two polarisers?
I'm thinking: initial intensity = power/area = 4mW/(4 x pi x (2mm)^2), and then you use final intensity = initial intensity x (cosx)^2, however this gives me the wrong answer from the textbook answer of 70degrees.

Hint: What is the intensity of the light in between the polarisers?

slaw155 said:
2. A diverging lens of focal length 6mm produces an image of magnification of 1/2. What is the distance between the object and lens?
I have no idea how to approach this besides knowing 1/f = 1/di + 1/do and magnification = -di/do (correct answer = 6mm)

You have two equations and two unknowns, did you try to solve this system of equations?

slaw155 said:
3. How many dark fringes can be observed in the diffraction pattern produced by a single slit of width 2.3micrometres with green light of wavelength 535m?
They don't give us the angle so I don't know how to use the formula dsinx= m x wavelength here. (correct answer = 8)

How is the light going to be dispersed after passing through the slit? (I.e., in what directions relative to the slit will there be light?) What is the angular difference between the fringes?
 
Orodruin said:
Generally, I would suggest making one thread per question. This will make it easier to help you and keep discussing only one problem per thread instead of mixing them all up. Anyway ...
Hint: What is the intensity of the light in between the polarisers?You have two equations and two unknowns, did you try to solve this system of equations?How is the light going to be dispersed after passing through the slit? (I.e., in what directions relative to the slit will there be light?) What is the angular difference between the fringes?

Q1. I used the formula intensity between polarisers = initial intensity x (cosx)^2 with x=0degrees and initial intensity = P/A where A=4 x pi x r^2, and then used this as the initial intensity in intensity after 2nd polariser = intensity between polarisers x (cosx)^2 but this still gives me the wrong answer? Is my method of calculating initial intensity correct or is there a different formula to use rather than Area being area of a sphere in P/A?
Q2. I did try to solve the two equations together, ended up with a quadratic equation, which I solved to give distance = 0.66mm, which is wrong compared to the correct answer of 6mm?
Q3. After considering your questions I thought the angle x in dsinx=n x wavelength must be 90degrees but this still does not work.
 
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Q1. Your incoming light is unpolarized, meaning it comes in an equal combination of both polarizations. How does this affect your results?
Q2. I have not done it explicitly so I cannot offer more advice than that I gave in my previous point.
Q3. Let us start from the beginning, what is the spread angle of the light after the slit?
 

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