How Do You Tackle Partial Differentiation with Trigonometric Functions?

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To tackle the problem of finding dx/dy and d²x/dy² for the equations x = yz and y = 2sin(y+z), one must first express dz in terms of dy using the second equation. The relationship dy = 2cos(y+z)(dy + dz) can be manipulated to isolate dz. Substituting this expression into the first equation allows for the differentiation of x with respect to y. The discussion emphasizes that any mathematical manipulation is permissible as long as it adheres to mathematical laws. This approach leads to a clearer path for solving the differentiation problem involving trigonometric functions.
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Homework Statement



If x = yz and y = 2sin(y+z), find dx/dy and d^2x/dy^2

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I am beyond confused at how to even start this one, the problem is not like any of the examples in my book.

I know x = ydz + zdy but don't know how to deal with z and dz?

Thanks for the help
 
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Find dz in terms of dy from the second equation and plug it into the first: dx=ydz+zdy.
 
Is it correct to use inverse trig function for that?
 
I can see no reason to. The second equation is y= 2sin(y+z) so dy= 2cos(y+z)(dy+ dz). From dx= zdy+ ydz, (NOT the "x= zdy+ ydz" you give. I assume that was a typo.), we get ydz= dx- zdy so dz= (1/y)dx- (z/y)dy. Putting that into the second equation, dy= 2cos(y+z)(dy+ (1/y)dx- (z/y)dy)= 2cos(y+z)(1- (z/y)dy+ (2/y)cos(y+z)dx. Solve that for dx and divide both sides by dy.
 
You can do anything you want that doesn't violate the laws of math!
 
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