How does a black body emit as much energy as it absorbs?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of black body radiation, specifically how a black body can emit as much energy as it absorbs. Participants explore the relationship between the absorption of high-energy visible light and the emission of lower-energy infrared radiation, questioning the equilibrium state of the black body.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to visualize the balance of photons entering and exiting the black body, raising questions about energy levels and equilibrium. Some express confusion about how a black body can maintain energy balance when emitting lower-energy photons compared to those absorbed.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering insights into the implications of energy absorption and emission. Some suggest that if a black body absorbs more energy than it radiates, it would not be in equilibrium, leading to questions about temperature changes. There is no explicit consensus, but various interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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Participants note that the wording of the question implies an initial lack of equilibrium, prompting further examination of the conditions under which a black body operates. The discussion includes considerations of energy balance and temperature effects.

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Homework Statement


A black body absorbs all incident electromagnetic radiation, including visible light which has wavelengths from 380nm to 750nm. IR radiation has wavelengths that are so long they are measured in microns. That suggests that visible light has a higher frequency than IR, and, higher energy. So when a black body absorbs visible light and emits IR, how does it achieve equilibrium?

Homework Equations


Ein = Eout (Energy in = Energy out)
E = hv (E = Energy; h = 6.63E-34 J-s; v = frequency in hertz)
v = C/l (C = 3.00E8 m/s; l = wavelength in meters)

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm picturing in my mind the same amount of photons going in as going out, but this would imply more energy going in than going out. So what's up with the black body?
 
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The Attempt at a Solution


I'm picturing in my mind the same amount of photons going in as going out, ..?

That's the problem. Far more low-energy photons are emitted, so the total in and out energy balance.
 
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GM Jackson said:
I'm picturing in my mind the same amount of photons going in as going out, but this would imply more energy going in than going out. So what's up with the black body?
Regardless of the number of photons involved, suppose the black body is absorbing more energy than it's radiating. It's not in equilibrium with its surroundings. What happens to the temperature of the black body?
 
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marcus said:
That's the problem. Far more low-energy photons are emitted, so the total in and out energy balance.
Thanks.
 
vela said:
Regardless of the number of photons involved, suppose the black body is absorbing more energy than it's radiating. It's not in equilibrium with its surroundings. What happens to the temperature of the black body?
I heard it goes up. Thanks for the input.
 
The way the question is worded implies that the blackbody isn't in equilibrium with its surroundings initially (otherwise it wouldn't have to do anything to achieve equilibrium), so it's not safe to assume the number of IR photons emitted is enough to maintain the energy balance. If you haven't already, you should consider what happens when the temperature of the blackbody goes up.
 
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