How Does a Pendulum Bob's Speed Relate to Its Displacement Angle?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the speed of a pendulum bob and its displacement angle from the equilibrium position. The original poster presents a problem involving the application of conservation of energy to derive the speed of the pendulum bob as it passes through the equilibrium position after being released from an angle.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conservation of energy as a method to approach the problem. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between kinetic and potential energy, as well as the height of the bob in relation to its displacement angle.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using conservation of energy and have encouraged drawing diagrams to visualize the problem. There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions and relationships involved, particularly regarding the height of the bob and its implications for the speed calculation.

Contextual Notes

There is some ambiguity noted regarding the term related to the horizontal distance and height of the bob, with participants questioning and clarifying these concepts as they relate to the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


Show that a simple pendulum bob which has been pulled aside from its equilibrium position through an angle ##\theta## and then released will pass through the equilibrium position with speed ##v = \sqrt{2gl(1-cos\theta)}##, where ##l## is the length of the pendulum.

Homework Equations


##K.E = \frac{1}{2}mv^2##
##P.E = mgh##

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried a lot in finding the start of the solution but I have no idea from where to start.
 
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Hi Ashes. You have to use conservation of energy here. Try it.
 
Draw a picture first.
 
Here is the diagram.
 

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Ashes Panigrahi said:
Here is the diagram.

The diagram is correct. Try to apply law of conservation of energy. What are the values of initial and final kinetic and potential energies?
 
You may find some ambiguity of the term
L(1-cos theta)

But this term is the horizontal distance from the equilibrium position of the bob to any position the bob can occupy .

:)
 
No, it is not the horizontal distance. What is the height of the bob above the deepest position, when it deflects by angle theta from the vertical? See picture. Find h .

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Oh sorry ,,
it is the height though..
 
ehild said:
No, it is not the horizontal distance. What is the height of the bob above the deepest position, when it deflects by angle theta from the vertical? See picture. Find h .
I got it!
##cos\theta=\frac{l-h}{l}##
##\Rightarrow l-h=lcos\theta##
##\Rightarrow h=l(1-cos\theta)##

Since, the pendulum starts moving from the non - equilibrium position, its initial velocity would be zero.
So, the final velocity ##v## is given by,
##v=\sqrt{2gh}## where ##g## is acceleration due to gravity.
Also, the maximum velocity is achieved at the equilibrium position.
So, substituting for ##h## we get,
##v=\sqrt{2gl(1-cos\theta)}##
Thanks a lot ehild.
 
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Ashes Panigrahi said:
So, substituting for ##h## we get,
##v=\sqrt{2gl(l-cos\theta)}##
Thanks a lot ehild.
There is a typo in the final formula. It has to be ##v=\sqrt{2gl(1-cos\theta)}##

Anyway, you understood and you did it, congrats! :)
 
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Thanks a lot for the clue ehild.
P.S I got the typo fixed.
 

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