How Does Charge Distribution Affect the Electric Field in a Cylindrical Hole?

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The discussion revolves around the electric field generated by a uniform volume charge distribution on an infinite plate and the effect of a cylindrical hole and an infinite line charge within that configuration. Participants are exploring the conditions under which the electric field outside the hole can be zero.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of superposition to analyze the electric field contributions from different charge distributions. Questions arise regarding the central axis of the hole and its implications for the problem setup. There is also a concern about the expected electric field inside the hole compared to the calculated results.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the contributions to the electric field from the various charge distributions involved. Some participants express confusion about the results obtained from their calculations, particularly regarding the field inside the hole and the influence of the plate's charge distribution.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem involves a uniform volume charge distribution and a specific geometric configuration, which may affect the application of Gauss's law. There is also mention of a potential misunderstanding regarding the terminology used (plate vs. sheet).

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Homework Statement


We have a infinite plate on the yz plane from x=-d/2 to x=d/2. The plate has a uniform volume charge distribution ρ_{0}. Parallel to the z axis at y=y_{0} we have a cylindrical hole with a radius a. At the center of the hole (paralle to the z-axis) we have an infinite line distribution λ_{0}.
We need to find the field everywhere and the condition that λ_{0}, ρ_{0} must satisfy in order to have zero field outside the hole.


Homework Equations


Gauss's law and the boundary contitions for E,D

The Attempt at a Solution


My first though was offcourse the superpossition principal. I found a problem using it:

The field inside the hole doesn't match the field from an infinite line, as it supposed to.
 
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What is the x-coordinate of the hole's central axis? Is it x = 0? Not sure it matters, but I think it does.
 
rude man said:
What is the x-coordinate of the hole's central axis? Is it x = 0? Not sure it matters, but I think it does.

Yep. My mistake. It is at x = 0.
 
weaver159 said:

Homework Statement


We have a infinite plate on the yz plane from x=-d/2 to x=d/2. The plate has a uniform volume charge distribution ρ_{0}. Parallel to the z axis at y=y_{0} we have a cylindrical hole with a radius a. At the center of the hole (paralle to the z-axis) we have an infinite line distribution λ_{0}.
We need to find the field everywhere and the condition that λ_{0}, ρ_{0} must satisfy in order to have zero field outside the hole.


Homework Equations


Gauss's law and the boundary contitions for E,D

The Attempt at a Solution


My first though was offcourse the superpossition principal. I found a problem using it:

The field inside the hole doesn't match the field from an infinite line, as it supposed to.

I'd go with superposition all right.

1. Sheet without the hole and line charge.
2. Right circular cylinder of where the hole is, charge density the negative of the charge density of the sheet.
3. Just the line charge by itself.
4. Add the whole business.
5. Invoke the requirement of zero E field outside the hole.
 
rude man said:
I'd go with superposition all right.

1. Sheet without the hole and line charge.
2. Right circular cylinder of where the hole is, charge density the negative of the charge density of the sheet.
3. Just the line charge by itself.
4. Add the whole business.
5. Invoke the requirement of zero E field outside the hole.

Thanks for the answer.
That's exactly what I did, but I have a small concern.
The field inside the hole should be λ_{0}/2πε_{0}r, because all we have in the hole is the line distribution. That is not result I get when I add the field from the above 3 distinct distributions. Do I miss anything?

*It is not actually a sheet but a plate, but that I think has minimal effect on the methodology.
 
The fied inside the hole is not just due to the line charge. It's also due to the plate's charge distribution. The field in the hole is due to three separate charge distributions, as I outlined.
 

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