How Does De Moivre's Identity Help Solve Trigonometric Equations?

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The discussion revolves around using de Moivre's identity to solve a trigonometric equation involving cosine and sine functions raised to various powers. The original poster seeks to find real values of parameters a and b that satisfy the equation cos^6(x) + sin^6(x) + a(cos^4(x) + sin^4(x)) + b = 0.

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  • Participants discuss the need to equate coefficients from the derived expression to find values for a and b. There is also a focus on the necessity for the coefficient of cos(4x) to vanish for the equation to hold for all x. Some participants question the validity of their chosen values of x for checking the derived parameters.

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Participants have engaged in exploring the implications of the derived equation and have shared their findings regarding the values of a and b. There is an ongoing inquiry into the reasoning behind the requirement for the coefficient of cos(4x) to vanish, indicating a productive exploration of the underlying mathematical principles.

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Some participants express confusion about the checks on the values of a and b, particularly regarding the choice of x values that would not suffice for validation. The discussion reflects a mix of attempts to clarify these aspects without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Use de Moivre's identity to find real values of a and b in the equation below such that the equation is valid.

cos^6(x)+sin^6(x)+a(cos^4(x)+sin^4(x))+b=0

Hint: Write cos(x) & sin(x) in terms of e^{ix} & e^{-ix}.

Check your values of a and b are valid by substituting in a value of x. State, with explanation, two values of xwhich would not have been sufficient checks on your values of a and b.


I've managed to obtain the following expression:

\frac{3}{8}cos(4x)+\frac{a}{4}cos(4x)+\frac{3a}{4}+\frac{5}{8}+b=0, and I checked the model solution, and this is the expression they've got too. But then they simply state a=\frac{-3}{2}, and work out b from there. But I don't understand how they got that value for a. Can someone explain to me what I'm missing?
 
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The equation \frac{3}{8}cos(4x)+\frac{a}{4}cos(4x)+\frac{3a}{4}+\frac{5}{8}+b=0 has to be true for all values of ##x##.

So you can get two equations from it, similar to "equating coefficients" of polynomials, as in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equating_coefficients
 
subzero0137 said:
Use de Moivre's identity to find real values of a and b in the equation below such that the equation is valid.

cos^6(x)+sin^6(x)+a(cos^4(x)+sin^4(x)+b=0

Hint: Write cos(x) & sin(x) in terms of e^{ix} & e^{-ix}.

Check your values of a and b are valid by substituting in a value of x. State, with explanation, two values of xwhich would not have been sufficient checks on your values of a and b.


I've managed to obtain the following expression:

\frac{3}{8}cos(4x)+\frac{a}{4}cos(4x)+\frac{3a}{4}+\frac{5}{8}+b=0, and I checked the model solution, and this is the expression they've got too. But then they simply state a=\frac{-3}{2}, and work out b from there. But I don't understand how they got that value for a. Can someone explain to me what I'm missing?

You have
\left( \frac{3}{8} + \frac{a}{4} \right) \cos(4x) + \frac{5}{8} + b \equiv 0
where ##\equiv## means that it is an identity that holds for all ##x## (much more than just an equation!). So, the coefficient of ##\cos(4x)## must vanish.
 
Ray Vickson said:
You have
\left( \frac{3}{8} + \frac{a}{4} \right) \cos(4x) + \frac{5}{8} + b \equiv 0
where ##\equiv## means that it is an identity that holds for all ##x## (much more than just an equation!). So, the coefficient of ##cos(4x)## must vanish.

Okay, so I understand what AlephZero said. I picked 2 random values of x, obtained simultaneousness equations and solved them for a and b. I got a=-3/2 and b=1/2. But I don't understand the emboldened part. Why must the coefficient of ##cos(4x)## vanish?

Also, for the last part of the question where it asks for 2 values of x which would not have been sufficient checks, do I just write down the 2 random values I used before to get my simultaneous equations?
 
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subzero0137 said:
Okay, so I understand what AlephZero said. I picked 2 random values of x, obtained simultaneousness equations and solved them for a and b. I got a=-3/2 and b=1/2. But I don't understand the emboldened part. Why must the coefficient of ##cos(4x)## vanish?

Also, for the last part of the question where it asks for 2 values of x which would not have been sufficient checks, do I just write down the 2 random values I used before to get my simultaneous equations?

The coefficient of cos(4x) must vanish because the equation must hold for ALL values of x; If the coefficient of cos(4x) did not vanish you could find infinitely many different values for x that would make the equation false.

Look at it this way: you could re-write the equation as
\left( \frac{3}{8} + \frac{a}{4} \right) \cos(4x) = - \frac{5}{8} - b
The right-hand-side is a constant (not dependent on x), so the left-hand-side must also not depend on x. The only way you can make that happen is to set the coefficient of cos(4x) to zero.
 
Ray Vickson said:
The coefficient of cos(4x) must vanish because the equation must hold for ALL values of x; If the coefficient of cos(4x) did not vanish you could find infinitely many different values for x that would make the equation false.

Look at it this way: you could re-write the equation as
\left( \frac{3}{8} + \frac{a}{4} \right) \cos(4x) = - \frac{5}{8} - b
The right-hand-side is a constant (not dependent on x), so the left-hand-side must also not depend on x. The only way you can make that happen is to set the coefficient of cos(4x) to zero.

Got it. Thanks
 

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