How Does Displacement Affect Momentum in a Frictionless Spring System?

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The discussion revolves around a block attached to a spring, exploring how displacement affects momentum in a frictionless oscillating system. The problem involves applying Hooke's law and concepts of potential and kinetic energy to derive expressions related to momentum.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between potential energy, kinetic energy, and momentum, questioning how to express momentum as a function of displacement. There is exploration of where velocity is maximized during oscillation and how it relates to momentum.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the relationship between potential energy and kinetic energy, suggesting that momentum can be expressed in terms of displacement. Others are clarifying concepts and exploring the implications of velocity on momentum, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the need to relate momentum to displacement without providing complete solutions. There are mentions of assumptions regarding the nature of energy values and the behavior of the spring system.

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Homework Statement



A block of mass m is attached to the end of a horizontally mounted spring as shown.
The spring has a spring constant k and obeys Hooke’s law. The block is given an initial
displacement xo, after which it oscillates back and forth without frictional effects.
(a) Write an expression for the magnitude of the momentum p of the block as a function of its displacement x
from its equilibrium position, given m, k, and xo.
(b) What are the minimum and maximum values of the magnitude of the momentum, and where do they occur in the motion of the block?


Homework Equations



I know that the force of the spring on the block is F= -kx, and that the spring has stored the elastic PE= 1/2 kx^2, but i am not sure how to relate this to momentum. I do know that the rate of change (with respect to time) of the momentum is equal to the force, so is it equal to -kx?

any help would be greatly appreciated.

as for part b, I am not sure how to attain this answer.
 
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Magnitude is directly related to velocity.
If a mass is oscillating back and forth, where is velocity the greatest?

Well, starting at the right hand +x side, V_{1} = 0. When it reaches its maximum on the -x side, V_{2} = 0 as well. So, this means that velocity will be at a maximum when the mass passes through the center point. If you think about this, it makes sense because as the mass is accelerating towards the center, its velocity in acceleration are in the same direction. After it passes the midpoint, the spring is exerting a force OPPOSITE the motion and thus an OPPOSITE acceleration so the mass slows down.

Hope that helps. Ill check back later when I am not at work.
 
Ah, and I forgot, when you displace the spring distance x, and you have PE of 1/2kx², this will be your KE @ 0 which will be 1/2mv² so you can relate x to v which you can relate to p
 
ah i think i see what you are saying, but when you said "Magnitude is directly related to velocity." you meant momentum is directly related correct? Also, i do understand your second post, the relation between the PE and KE, but I am still confused as to how i would express the momentum of the block as a function of its displacement from its equilibrium position. I know that the momentum is equal to velocity X mass. So do i just substitute p for mv in the KE equation?

But i do see, that when the spring is stretched momentum is at its minimum, 0, because velocity is 0, as well as at the maximum compression of the spring, on the -x side, where velocity is again 0, making the momentum 0. So when the block is at its equilibrium velocity is greatest, and therefore momentum is greatest. But as i express this magnitude, is it just expressed as mv^2?
 
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When the mass is all the way right ( or left ) you have the relationship that PE+KE=0. So, 1/2kx²+1/2mv²=0. Now you can solve for v in terms of x and thusly write p in terms of x also.
 
ohh ok i understand very well now. Thanks for all your help!
 
dm66048 said:
ohh ok i understand very well now. Thanks for all your help!

And don't worry about the negative -k that you come up with. Since values for k are always negative, a -k in an equation will actually be positive and youll get a positive energy value.
 

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