How Does Electric Force Balance Magnetic Force in Electron Motion?

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The discussion revolves around the interaction of electric and magnetic forces on an electron in motion, specifically how these forces balance each other to maintain the electron's trajectory. The subject area includes concepts from electromagnetism, particularly the Lorentz force law.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between electric and magnetic forces acting on an electron, questioning the necessary conditions for balance. There is an inquiry into the application of the Lorentz force law to determine the direction of the electric force needed to counteract the magnetic force.

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The discussion is ongoing with participants providing insights into the Lorentz force law and its implications for the forces acting on the electron. Some guidance has been offered regarding vector manipulation and the conditions for achieving a net force of zero.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of vector forces and their components, with some uncertainty about the directionality and magnitude of the forces involved. There is an emphasis on understanding the implications of the Lorentz force law without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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If an electron is pushed up by a magnetic force, the magnetic force acts in the z direction and the electron moves in the x direction, the force is therefore in the y direction. Now if I add an electric force so that the electron carries on in the x direction. Will that electric force need to act in the negative y direction with the same magnitude as the magnetic force?

Thanks.
 
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jimmy42 said:
If an electron is pushed up by a magnetic force, the magnetic force acts in the z direction and the electron moves in the x direction, the force is therefore in the y direction. Now if I add an electric force so that the electron carries on in the x direction. Will that electric force need to act in the negative y direction with the same magnitude as the magnetic force?

Thanks.
That's not quite correct: Let's rewrite it.

"If an electron is acted upon by a magnetic [STRIKE]force[/STRIKE] field, the magnetic [STRIKE]force[/STRIKE] field is in the z direction and the electron moves in the x direction, the force is therefore in the y direction. "

Now if I add an electric force so that the electron carries on in the x direction. Will that electric force need to act in the negative y direction with the same magnitude as the magnetic force?
The answer to the question is YES.
 


OK thanks. How can I use the Lorentz force law to prove that?

I have done this:

[tex]E = F - (V x B )/ q[/tex]

Not sure how that equation can tell be the direction. Any help?
 


The Lorentz force:

[tex]\vec{F} = q\left[ \vec{E} + \left( \vec{v} \times \vec{B}\right) \right][/tex]

Everything in the equation is a vector except for the charge, q (which does have a sign though). The "x" is the cross product. The directions of things are determined by the rules of vector manipulation.

In your case you want the net force to be zero, so you can rearrange to solve for E, as you've done. Now, when each of the vectors involved have only a single non-zero component, the expansion of the vector expression into separate component expressions becomes relatively easy (if you want to solve the problem "mechanically"). Otherwise, a little intuition about the directions that the fields must go in order to provide the required force directions on the moving, charged particle will suffice.
 

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