How does gamma photon ionization affect ion creation and wavelength?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effects of gamma photon ionization on ion creation and the relationship between photon energy and wavelength. Participants explore various interaction modes of gamma rays, including their scattering and ionization capabilities, and how these relate to the creation of ions before absorption occurs.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that gamma rays scatter and ionize atoms, potentially stretching their wavelength, and questions how many ions a single gamma photon could create before being absorbed.
  • Another participant humorously questions the relevance of the initial query by comparing it to the ambiguous question of the length of a piece of string.
  • A participant clarifies that gamma photons possess specific energy levels, which distinguishes them from the metaphorical string, and notes that there is no upper bound on the energy of a gamma photon.
  • One participant proposes a more focused question regarding the number of ions created by a photon of given energy in a homogeneous medium, suggesting that this could yield a more satisfactory answer.
  • A later reply mentions that a photon could be absorbed by the photoelectric effect with significant probability when its energy is near the binding energies of atomic electrons, indicating that the interaction modes depend heavily on the energy of the gamma photon.
  • Another participant reiterates the initial question about ion creation and emphasizes the various competing interaction modes of gamma rays, including pair production, Compton scattering, and nuclear photodisintegration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relevance and clarity of the initial question, with some seeking a more precise inquiry into ion creation while others engage in a more abstract discussion. No consensus is reached regarding the specific number of ions created or the implications of photon energy on wavelength.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of gamma photon interactions, with various assumptions about energy levels and interaction probabilities that remain unresolved. The dependence on specific conditions, such as the medium and energy of the photon, is noted but not fully explored.

Daniel Petka
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Gamma rays scatter and ionize atoms, which stretches out their wavelength, right? How many ions could a single gamma ray photon create before it's absorbed due to the photoelectric effect?
 
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How long is a piece of string?
 
The major difference between a string and a gamma photon is that gamma photons have a certain energy. The length of the "string" doesn't apply to any model of photons. (unless we're talking about the string theory :p)
 
Daniel Petka said:
The major difference between a string and a gamma photon is that gamma photons have a certain energy.
Just as there is no particular upper bound on the length of a string, there is no particular upper bound on the energy of a gamma photon... So Vanadium50's response is not unreasonable.

But were you trying to ask how many ions could be created by a photon of given energy passing through a homogeneous medium? That's a more specific question that's more likely to get a satisfactory answer.
 
Exactly
 
To be specific I would say about 1 TeV
 
Daniel Petka said:
Gamma rays scatter and ionize atoms, which stretches out their wavelength, right? How many ions could a single gamma ray photon create before it's absorbed due to the photoelectric effect?

Now we can take Vanadium 50's response and change it to ," into how many pieces can you divide a string?". A gamma ray has several competing modes of interactions at least including pair production, Compton scattering, photoelectric effect and nuclear photodisintegration whose probabilities of occurrence are highly dependent on energy. A photon can only be absorbed by the PE with significant probability when its energy is close to the binding energies of the atomic electrons. So into how many pieces can you divide a string? as many as you want.
 

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