How Does Gauss's Law Help Calculate Earth's Total Electric Charge?

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The discussion revolves around applying Gauss's Law to calculate the total electric charge of the Earth based on the electric field in its atmosphere. Participants are examining the relationship between the electric field, charge, and the radius of the Earth.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to understand the variables in the equation E = kQr/a^3, specifically questioning the definitions and roles of 'r' and 'a' in the context of the Earth's radius.
  • Some participants are exploring the differences between the electric field equations for point charges and those for uniformly charged spheres, particularly in relation to the problem's context.
  • There is a request for clarification on Gauss's Law and its application to the problem at hand.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants actively questioning the definitions of variables and the applicability of different equations related to electric fields. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of Gauss's Law, but no consensus has been reached on the interpretation of the variables involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement, which specifies the electric field and the radius of the Earth, but does not clarify the definitions of 'r' and 'a' in the equations provided. There is also a focus on the implications of the problem's context regarding fields inside charged spheres versus those in the atmosphere.

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Homework Statement


Suppose that the electric field in the Earth's atmosphere is E = 1.50 x 10^2 N/C, pointing downward. Determine the electric charge in the Earth. (The radius of the Earth is 6371 km, and the Coulomb's constant, ke, is 8.99 x 10^9 N · m2/C2.)


Homework Equations


E=kQr/a^3
Q = E(a^3)/kr


The Attempt at a Solution


I have the equation to solve this (E = kQr/a^3) and have rearranged it to Q = E(a^3)/kr, but my problem is that I don't know what r (or a) is. The Earth's radius would be a, right? Or would it be r? If it's r, then what's a, and vice-versa? Please help me figure r and a's values out.
 
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Lolligirl said:

Homework Statement


Suppose that the electric field in the Earth's atmosphere is E = 1.50 x 10^2 N/C, pointing downward. Determine the electric charge in the Earth. (The radius of the Earth is 6371 km, and the Coulomb's constant, ke, is 8.99 x 10^9 N · m2/C2.)

Homework Equations


E=kQr/a^3
Q = E(a^3)/kr

The Attempt at a Solution


I have the equation to solve this (E = kQr/a^3) and have rearranged it to Q = E(a^3)/kr, but my problem is that I don't know what r (or a) is. The Earth's radius would be a, right? Or would it be r? If it's r, then what's a, and vice-versa? Please help me figure r and a's values out.
Judging by the title you chose for this thread, you should be using Gauss's Law to solve this.

Can you state Gauss's Law?
 
E=kQ/r^2. This is under the applications section of the chapter on Gauss's law, but directly after an example problem that says to find the magnitude of the electric field at a point inside the sphere, we use E=kQr/a^3. Is that different from finding the magnitude of the electric field due to a point charge in the center of the sphere?
 
Lolligirl said:
E=kQ/r^2. This is under the applications section of the chapter on Gauss's law, but directly after an example problem that says to find the magnitude of the electric field at a point inside the sphere, we use E=kQr/a^3. Is that different from finding the magnitude of the electric field due to a point charge in the center of the sphere?
The question says nothing about fields inside charged spheres. It mentions the field in the atmosphere (just above ground level, presumably) and charge within the sphere of the Earth.
 
Lolligirl said:
E=kQ/r^2. This is under the applications section of the chapter on Gauss's law, but directly after an example problem that says to find the magnitude of the electric field at a point inside the sphere, we use E=kQr/a^3. Is that different from finding the magnitude of the electric field due to a point charge in the center of the sphere?
E=kQ/r2 is Coulombs Law for the electric field due to a point charge.

E=kQr/a^3 gives the electric field inside a sphere of radius, a, at a distance, r, from the sphere's center, if that sphere has total charge Q which is uniformly distributed throughout the sphere's volume. This has nothing to do with the problem stated here.

Gauss's Law can be used to show that electric field due to a spherically symmetric charge distribution is the same as the field produced by a point charge of the same value as that of the entire sphere.
 

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