How Does Introducing Different Dielectrics Affect Capacitance?

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The discussion revolves around the effect of introducing different dielectrics in a parallel plate capacitor on its capacitance. The original poster presents a scenario where two dielectrics with different relative permittivities are placed between the plates, seeking to understand the resulting capacitance ratio.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to analyze the configuration of dielectrics and questions whether they can be arranged in different series and parallel combinations to find the capacitance ratio. Some participants question the validity of these arrangements based on electric field uniformity across the dielectrics.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing with participants exploring the implications of electric fields in different sections of the capacitor. There is a focus on clarifying the relationships between potential differences and electric fields in the proposed configurations.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of dielectric arrangements and their impact on capacitance, with some confusion regarding the orientation and relationships of the dielectrics in the capacitor setup.

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Homework Statement


A parallel plate capacitor having plates of area S and plate separation d, has capacitance C1 in air. When two dielectrics of different relative permittivities ( ε1=2 and ε2=4) are introduced between the two plates as shown in the figure, the capacitance becomes C2. the ratio C2/C1 is

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C= ε0A/d[/B]

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if we name the components 1,2,3,4 in clockwise manner,in the solution 1 and 2 are taken in series and 3 and 4 are taken in series and they both are connected parallel,can we also take 1 and 4 in parallel and 2 and 3 in parallel and they both are connected in series?in that case answer comes out to be 12/5 where have i gone wrong?
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vijayramakrishnan said:
can we also take 1 and 4 in parallel and 2 and 3 in parallel and they both are connected in series?
No. Electric field between 1 and 2 (left half) is not same as the electric field between 3 and 4(left half).
 
cnh1995 said:
No. Electric field between 1 and 2 (left half) is not same as the electric field between 3 and 4(left half).
sir 2 is not left half,1234 in clockwise direction
 
vijayramakrishnan said:
sir 2 is not left half,1234 in clockwise direction
sir,do you mean to say that the potential difference between positive terminal and interface between 1 and 2 is not same as potential difference between positive terminal and interface between 3 and 4.
 
cnh1995 said:
No. Electric field between 1 and 2 (left half) is not same as the electric field between 3 and 4(left half).
sir,do you mean to say that the potential difference between positive terminal and interface between 1 and 2 is not same as potential difference between positive terminal and interface between 3 and 4.
 

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