How Does Kirchhoff's Law Apply to Calculating Currents and Voltage Differences?

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The discussion focuses on applying Kirchhoff's laws to a circuit problem involving two loops and multiple resistors. Participants clarify how to correctly set up equations based on the loops, emphasizing that shared components should be treated according to the currents passing through them. The importance of accurately identifying loop paths and the resistances involved is highlighted, with specific attention to the 2Ω resistor that connects both loops. The potential difference between points a and b is determined by the voltage drop across the 2Ω resistor, which is the only component common to both loops. Overall, the conversation illustrates the application of Kirchhoff's laws in circuit analysis and the significance of current direction and resistance values in calculations.
  • #31
What about the potential difference? My theory is that it is 12 - 8 = 4V because the terminals are opposite.
 
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  • #32
After all this time?

The potential difference is equal to the voltage dropped across the 2Ω resistor.
 
  • #33
The current running in the small loop is 2.545A and the bigger loop is 1.64A

So the current running through the 2Ω resistor is 0.908A.

So now you want me to 2Ω * 0.908A = 1.82V because this is the only resistor that intercepts both loops.

But I don't like this answer. Does it matter where a and b are placed?
 
  • #34
flyingpig said:
The current running in the small loop is 2.545A and the bigger loop is 1.64A

So the current running through the 2Ω resistor is 0.908A.

So now you want me to 2Ω * 0.908A = 1.82V because this is the only resistor that intercepts both loops.

But I don't like this answer. Does it matter where a and b are placed?

I thought we called these Ia & Ib.

If you want the answer, then you should want to: 2Ω * 0.908A = 1.82V .

As long as a is to the left of the batteries and the 2Ω resistor & b is to the right of all the resistors, their exact location doesn't matter.
 
  • #35
But why is 12V - 8V wrong?
 
  • #36
For the same reason that any other wrong answer is wrong.

There is no reason the answer should be 12V - 8V.
 
  • #37
But was my guess at what the answer really should have been right when you hinted at me? That it is the voltage drop across the 2Ω resistor because the 2Ω resistor is the only resistor in the intersection of the loop?
 
  • #38
flyingpig said:
But was my guess at what the answer really should have been right when you hinted at me? That it is the voltage drop across the 2Ω resistor because the 2Ω resistor is the only resistor in the intersection of the loop?
Yes.

As long as you got Ia & Ib right.
 
  • #39
Sammy, the solutions posted said the voltage drop is -1.80V

Here is my question, when we tackle these problems, aren't we only concerned with the magnitude?
 
  • #40
flyingpig said:
Sammy, the solutions posted said the voltage drop is -1.80V

Here is my question, when we tackle these problems, aren't we only concerned with the magnitude?

No. Among other things, the sign has to do with which way the current flows.
 
  • #41
Then how do I know that it is -1.80V?
 
  • #42
The sign will depend upon whether they found Va - Vb or Vb - Va.
 
  • #43
So it is not unique?
 

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