How Does Latitude Affect Gravity and Centripetal Force on Earth?

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The discussion centers on how latitude affects gravity and centripetal force on Earth, particularly in the context of circular motion due to Earth's rotation. Participants explore the forces involved and their relationships, including gravitational and centrifugal forces, and how these vary with latitude.

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  • Some participants propose that the centripetal force required for circular motion is provided by the component of gravitational force, specifically mgcos(λ).
  • Others argue that mgcos(λ) is much larger than the necessary centripetal force and emphasize the role of the normal force from the ground, which reduces the effective weight at the equator.
  • A participant attempts to relate gravitational and centrifugal forces mathematically, suggesting that the resultant force is mg - mgcos²(λ), but this is contested.
  • There is a clarification that the component of weight perpendicular to the axis of rotation contributes to the centripetal force, rather than being equal to it.
  • Some participants discuss the implications of Earth's rotational rate and radius on the perceived weight at different latitudes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between gravitational and centripetal forces, with no consensus reached on the correct formulation or understanding of these forces in the context of latitude.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the calculations depend on assumptions such as a spherically symmetric Earth and the simplifications made regarding the forces involved. There are unresolved mathematical steps in the proposed relationships.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying physics, particularly in areas related to mechanics, gravitational forces, and the effects of Earth's rotation on weight and motion.

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Here the particle is performing circular motion due to the rotation of the earth. And for the circular motion it requires centripetal force then which force provides the necessary centripetal force. I think it is mgcos(lamda). Am i right?
 
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Hardik Batra said:
I think it is mgcos(lamda). Am i right?
Yes, that's correct.
 
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Can I do this?

mgcos(lamda) =
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(centrifugal force) (In PQ direction)

PR = mgcos^2(lamda)

and resultant force = mg - mgcos^2(lamda).
 
No, that is incorrect. mg cos(Q) is much larger than the required centrepital force. You are forgetting about the constraint force of the ground pushing up.

For example the radius of the Earth is about 6.4e6 m. The rotational rate is once per day making the velocity about 460m/s. So V^2/R at the equator is an out 0.034 m/s^2 which is 300 X smaller than g. The normal force which would otherwise have to be = mg now is reduced to 99.7% of mg. So you weigh 0.3% less at the equator. Actually it's more than that because of the Earth's centrifugal bulge, but that's another story.
 
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Hardik Batra said:
Can I do this

mgcos(lamda) = View attachment 109856 (centrifugal force) (In PQ direction)

PR = mgcos^2(lamda)

and resultant force = mg - mgcos^2(lamda).
No. As Cutter Ketch stated, mgcosθ is much greater than the needed centripetal force.

I was sloppy before: I just meant to say that it is the component of the weight perpendicular to the axis of rotation that provides the centripetal force, not that it equals the centripetal force.

To find the apparent g as a function of latitude (pretending a spherically symmetric earth) you'd add the centrifugal force to the force of gravity.
 
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