How Does Linear Charge Density Affect Electric Field and Potential at a Point?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of linear charge density on electric field and potential at a specific point, particularly focusing on the calculations involving a finite, constant linear charge density λ and its implications for electric field (E-field) and potential (V) at point P.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the E-field and potential at point P using integrals, questioning the role of the cosine term in the potential calculation and whether it leads to the total voltage or just the x-component.
  • Participants raise concerns about the validity of the original poster's integrals and suggest alternative methods for calculating potential, including direct integration of voltage.
  • There is confusion regarding the correctness of multiple derived equations for potential, leading to questions about which expression is accurate.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of direct voltage integration, but there is no consensus on the correctness of the various expressions derived for potential.

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I want to find the potential at point P due to a finite, constant linear charge density λ, of length L.
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first, if i wanted to find the x-component of the E-field at point P..

$$E=\int{\frac{k(λdx)}{r^2}}cosθ$$

$$r=\sqrt{z^2+x^2}$$

$$cosθ=\frac{x}{\sqrt{z^2+x^2}}$$

$$E=kλ\int{\frac{1}{z^2+x^2}}\frac{x}{\sqrt{z^2+x^2}}dx$$

evaluated from 0 to L yields..

$$-kλ(\frac{1}{z^2+L^2}-\frac{1}{\sqrt{z^2}})$$

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when we did found the potential at piont P in class, we did the following though

$$V_{p}= -\int{\vec{E}\cdot d\vec{r}cosθ}$$

my confusion is, when we add the cosθ term, aren't we just finding the voltage of the x-component E-field?? Because, i thought we were trying to find the total voltage at point P, but this suggests otherwise doesn't it?

also..

expanding $$V_{p}$$..

since $$r=\sqrt{z^2+x^2}$$

$$dr=\frac{1}{2}(z^2+x^2)^{-1/2}(2xdx)$$
$$V_{p}= \int{\frac{k(λdx)}{z^2+x^2}\frac{x}{\sqrt{z^2+x^2}}(\frac{1}{2}(z^2+x^2)^{-1/2}(2xdx))=kλ\int{\frac{x^2}{(z^2+x^2)^2}}dx}$$

(evaluated from 0 to L)

is this expression for the potential correct? in class we got..

$$-kλ\int{\frac{zx}{z^2\sqrt{z^2+x^2}}\frac{x^2}{z^2+x^2}dx}$$
 
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Why mess with E fields at all? Use dV = k dq/r etc. and integrate.

Your last integral does not make sense ...
 
i added the dx..

other than that does it make sense? moreover is it the correct expression for the voltage at point P?

using dV=kq/r i get..

$$V=\int{\frac{k}{r}dq}=kλ\int{\frac{1}{\sqrt{x^2+z^2}}dx}$$

but this is equal to neither of the two equations... so now i have three equations.. which one is correct??
 
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iScience said:
i added the dx..

other than that does it make sense? moreover is it the correct expression for the voltage at point P?

using dV=kq/r i get..

$$V=\int{\frac{k}{r}dq}=kλ\int{\frac{1}{\sqrt{x^2+z^2}}dx}$$

but this is equal to neither of the two equations... so now i have three equations.. which one is correct??

I won't deal with the E field. Much too laborious.Anyway, your equation here is where I'd put my money. Integrated from 0 to L.
 
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