How Does Mass Distribution Affect the Center of Mass in a Triangle?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the center of mass of a triangle with uneven mass distribution. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how this distribution affects the center of mass, particularly in relation to a specific point labeled Q.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply a known formula for the center of mass but questions its validity due to the uneven mass distribution. They propose a method involving a horizontal line to estimate the center of mass location.
  • Some participants question the assumptions made regarding mass distribution and suggest considering the relative masses of the triangles involved.
  • Another participant introduces a coordinate system approach to calculate the center of mass, indicating a shift towards a more systematic method.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different methods to calculate the center of mass, with some providing feedback on the validity of the approaches. There is a recognition of the need to account for mass distribution, and while some calculations have been presented, there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the final answers.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available and the methods they can use. The discussion includes attempts to clarify the implications of mass distribution on the center of mass calculation.

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Homework Statement


I know traditionally the center of mass of a triangle is 2/3 the way down its height, but i believe it varies here due to the uneven mass distribution.
Here i have to find the center of mass distance from Q

http://img508.imageshack.us/f/scn0001p.jpg/

Here is an image of my working


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The Attempt at a Solution



See image.
Incase its unlegiable, i come to a conclusion that the that the center of mass is at h/2-(h/2 x 0.2). In other words if you drew a horizontal line through the two 50g's you'd get the center of mass just below that.

Im hopnig my idea of drawing an imaginary horizontal line is a way to approach it seeming the vertices are the same.
By doing this i get an answer (From Q!) of:
h - 2sqrt (3) = sqrt(75)-2sqrt(3) = 3sqrt(3)

Is this correct? Or is my "Horizontal line" idea not valid.

Thanks.
 
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Your answer isn't correct. For one thing, you're not taking into account the relative masses of the two triangles. Also, it appears you're trying to calculate the location of the center of mass of the second triangle and got 20% of its height. Think about if the bottom mass were 50 g instead of 20 g, so the second triangle is uniform. Does the formula you used give you the right answer?
 
Ok I'm going to use a method i know works rather than a short cut (I don't know the actual answer):
Here's my working:
http://img600.imageshack.us/f/scn0002n.jpg/
I'm basically creating a coordinate system, then using;
M(x', y')= m1(x1,y1) + m2(x2,y2) + ...

This gives my the center of mass location which comes out as (0, -25/21) [This is cut off at the end]

Hence distance from Q is h/2 + magnitude of this answer (i.e. positive)
= sqrt(75)/2 + 25/21
= 5.52 (3sf)

So the above attempt was wrong as you said.

Is this correct?
 
Your method sounds correct, but your final answer isn't. I got 5.36 cm.
 

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