How does regularity of curves prevent "cusps"?

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The discussion centers on the concept of regular curves on manifolds and how the condition of having a non-zero derivative, ##\dot \gamma(t) \neq 0##, relates to the prevention of "cusps" and "kinks" in the curve. Participants explore the implications of this condition in the context of differential geometry and the intuitive understanding of curve behavior.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that a regular curve is defined by the condition ##\dot \gamma(t) \neq 0##, which intuitively prevents cusps and kinks.
  • Others argue that having ##\dot \gamma(t) = 0## indicates a stationary point, which can occur due to parametrization and does not necessarily imply the presence of cusps or kinks.
  • It is proposed that forbidding ##\dot \gamma(t) = 0## ensures that cusps and kinks are avoided, as these features require the derivative to be zero.
  • Some participants suggest that the non-zero derivative is also necessary for defining the direction of the tangent vector at every point and for ensuring that the parametrization is locally one-to-one and does not backtrack.
  • A question is raised regarding the intuitive reasoning behind why cusps or kinks necessitate ##\dot \gamma(t) = 0##.
  • One participant offers an analogy of a moving point tracing the curve, where the velocity represented by ##\dot \gamma(t)## must have a direction, prompting inquiry about the direction at a kink.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between the condition of the derivative and the presence of cusps or kinks. There is no consensus on the intuitive reasoning behind these concepts, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not fully explore the implications of parametrization on the behavior of curves, nor do they clarify the conditions under which cusps and kinks arise in relation to the derivative.

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A regular curve on a manifold ##M## is a curve ##\gamma:I \to M## such that ##\dot \gamma(t) \neq 0## for any ##t \in I##. In John Lee's "Introduction to Curvature" he says that this intuitively means that we prevent the curve from having "cusps" and "kinks".

How can I see that this is the case? I.e. how could ##\dot \gamma(t) = 0## for some t lead to a "kink" or "cusp"?
 
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center o bass said:
A regular curve on a manifold ##M## is a curve ##\gamma:I \to M## such that ##\dot \gamma(t) \neq 0## for any ##t \in I##. In John Lee's "Introduction to Curvature" he says that this intuitively means that we prevent the curve from having "cusps" and "kinks".

How can I see that this is the case? I.e. how could ##\dot \gamma(t) = 0## for some t lead to a "kink" or "cusp"?

It doesn't. ##\dot \gamma(t) = 0## means a stationary point and can happen just from parametrization. But cusps or kinks do require ##\dot \gamma(t) = 0##, so forbidding it ensures you get none.

##\dot \gamma(t) \neq 0## is needed for two other reasons : it ensures ##\dot \gamma(t) ## gives you the direction of the tangent vector to the curve at every point, and that the parametrization is locally one-to-one / doesn't backtrack.
 
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wabbit said:
It doesn't. ##\dot \gamma(t) = 0## means a stationary point and can happen just from parametrization. But cusps or kinks do require ##\dot \gamma(t) = 0##, so forbidding it ensures you get none.

##\dot \gamma(t) \neq 0## is needed for two other reasons : it ensures ##\dot \gamma(t) ## gives you the direction of the tangent vector to the curve at every point, and that the parametrization is locally one-to-one / doesn't backtrack.
But why -- intuitively -- do cusps or kinks require ##\dot gamma = 0##?
 
One way to see it is to think of the curve as traced by a moving point at ## \gamma(t) ##; then ## \dot\gamma(t) ## is the velocity of that point. If it's not zero it has a direction. What is that direction at a kink ?
 

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