How Does Special Relativity Affect the Angle of a Meter Stick in a Moving Frame?

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The problem involves a meter stick at rest in a laboratory frame, positioned at an angle of 30° with the x-axis. The question seeks to determine the angle the meter stick makes with the x'-axis in a reference frame moving at a velocity of V=0.8c in the x-direction, considering the effects of special relativity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of length contraction on the angle of the meter stick in the moving frame. There is an exploration of using trigonometric functions to relate the angles and lengths in both frames. Some participants question the application of cosine versus tangent in their calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing various interpretations and approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct use of trigonometric functions, and there is an ongoing examination of the reasoning behind the transformations between frames.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of special relativity, particularly length contraction and its effects on measurements in different reference frames. There is a noted confusion regarding the application of trigonometric identities and the implications of the meter stick's length in the moving frame.

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Homework Statement


A meter stick is at rest in the laboratory frame. It lies in the x-y plane, making an angle of 30° with the x-axis. What angle does this meter stick make with the x'-axis of a reference frame moving at V=0.8c in the x-direction.

Laboratory frame is the rest frame.
Variables: θ=30°, θ', V=0.8c

Homework Equations


Length Contraction
x = x'*√1-V2/c2

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried treating the meter stick as a unit vector so that x=(1)cosθ and x'=L'cos(θ'). y=y' obviously.
cos(θ') = cos(30)/√1-0.82
= 0.866/0.6
= 1.44
θ'=cos-1(1.44)=domain error

I feel like I'm making a stupid mistake and I just can't see it
 
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In the moving frame, you expect x' < x because of length contraction, so it must be that x' = x/γ. You're using x' = γx.
 
ahh so it would be tangent instead of cosine, right?

In that case,
tan(θ')=tan(30)/.6
θ'= 43.9°

Thanks!
 
No, I don't think that's right. How did you get tangent? That's a gamma, not a y. Also, remember the meter stick is no longer 1 meter long in the moving frame.
 
Oh, I thought it was a y. Regardless, you can just say

tanθ=y/x tanθ'=y'/x'

(tanθ)/(tanθ')=yx'/xy'

but since y=y'

(tanθ)/(tanθ')=x'/x

xtanθ=x'tanθ'

so then use

tanθ'=tanθ/√1-V2/c2

plugging in the numbers gives me θ'=43.9, which is the answer in the book.

please let me know if my reasoning is wrong, I want a better understanding of this.
 
That's right. Just wanted to make sure your reasoning for going from cos to tan was correct.
 

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