How Does Tension Vary Along a Rope in Motion?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of tension in a heavy rope being pulled, specifically examining how tension varies along the rope and the relationship between the tension at different points and the acceleration of those points compared to a block attached to the rope.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants explore the equality of tension at various points on the rope and question whether tension is constant throughout a heavy rope. They also discuss the relationship between the acceleration of the points on the rope and the block.

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Some participants have offered insights into the differences in tension due to the mass of the rope and the forces acting on different segments. There is ongoing exploration of how the acceleration of points on the rope relates to the overall system's acceleration.

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Participants note that the rope is heavy, which raises questions about the constancy of tension along its length. The discussion includes considerations of how different masses affect the forces and accelerations involved.

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1. someone is pulling on a heavy straight rope with force F. Points A and B are one quarter of the distance from each end, and points O and P are the ends of rope. The rope is attached to a heavy block, which slides on a frictionless floor, and which therefore accelerates as it is pulled.
Select the appropriate choice for each of the following statements: True, False, Greater than, Less than, or Equal to For choices involving comparisons Greater than, Less than or Equal to, consider only the magnitudes of the quantities being compared.

1. The velocities of points A and B are equal. TF
2. Greater than Less than Equal to The acceleration of the point O is ... the acceleration of the block. TF
3. Greater than Less than Equal to The tension at the point B is ... the tension at the point A. TF


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2. Is the tension equal everywhere on a heavy rope?
 
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3. the tension at point b is EQUAL TO the tension at point a
because tension force is equal everywhere on a string/rope

2. The acceleration of the point O is GREATER THAN the acceleration of the block
bcause based on #3, when the same net force is given, the smaller the mass, the greater the acceleration... O is obviously lighter than the box, therefore, has a greater acceleration.

3. the velocities of A and B are equal

true, since the accelerations of A and B are the same

... above is what i figured out so far, but they are wrong judged by the website.
 
lmlgrey said:
3. the tension at point b is EQUAL TO the tension at point a
because tension force is equal everywhere on a string/rope
That would be true for a massless rope, but that's not what you have here.

2. The acceleration of the point O is GREATER THAN the acceleration of the block
bcause based on #3, when the same net force is given, the smaller the mass, the greater the acceleration... O is obviously lighter than the box, therefore, has a greater acceleration.

3. the velocities of A and B are equal

true, since the accelerations of A and B are the same
Aren't all the points... O, B, A, P... connected together?
 
I noticed that its a heavy rope... but I don't understand the difference it makes..
so the tension force is not constant throughout the rope?\

and yes, A,B,O,P are points on the rope therefore, connected.
 
lmlgrey said:
I noticed that its a heavy rope... but I don't understand the difference it makes..
so the tension force is not constant throughout the rope?\
The tension at each point is the force that the rope exerts at that point. Compare the force needed at point O, which pulls on everything to the right of point O, to the force needed at point A, which pulls on everything to the right of point A. Do those forces pull on the same amount of mass? Can they be the same force?
and yes, A,B,O,P are points on the rope therefore, connected.
Right, they are all connected. So how can one point have a different acceleration than another?
 
Okkk. I see!
I can interpret it as it is a massless rope, but there is each an object that attaches at A,B,O,P which weighs the same... ok, now I get it. The acceleration would be the same since the the whole system has only one acceleration but tension force is different since there are different masses.

thank you very much for the hints!
 

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