How does the concept of mass-energy equivalence relate to conservation laws?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of conservation laws in physics, particularly focusing on how mass-energy equivalence relates to these laws. Participants explore various conservation laws, their definitions, and the implications of mass-energy equivalence on the understanding of conservation in different contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants list various conservation laws, including energy, momentum, angular momentum, charge, and others, while questioning the validity of mass conservation.
  • One participant argues that mass conservation is not true, suggesting that mass can be converted into energy or momentum, particularly in particle interactions.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the definition of "mass" is crucial, noting that the conversion of particles like electrons and positrons into gamma rays illustrates this point.
  • There is a mention of various conservation laws categorized as exact or approximate, with examples provided for both categories.
  • Some participants discuss the implications of mass-energy equivalence, suggesting that while mass and energy can be interconverted, the separate conservation laws for mass and energy still hold in certain contexts.
  • A question is raised about the existence of conservation of matter versus conservation of mass, with a suggestion that mass-energy conservation is a more accurate description.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of mass conservation, with some asserting it is not true while others suggest it can be understood within the framework of mass-energy equivalence. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the definitions and implications of these conservation laws.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight that the definitions of mass and energy are context-dependent, and the applicability of conservation laws may vary based on the physical situation being considered.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying physics, particularly in the areas of conservation laws, mass-energy equivalence, and the implications of relativity in particle physics.

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Hi
How many conservation laws are there ?
1. Conservation of energy
2. " " momentum
3. " mass
4. " charge
?


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mass conservation isn't really true
 
Curl said:
mass conservation isn't really true

Yeah, It all depends on what you mean by "mass". Converting electrons-positrons to gamma rays removes the "mass" and turns it into energy or momentum or whatever.
 
I don't know what "conservation of gravity" even means. As for weak isospin, it is certainly not conserved, although it's third component is.

There is no answer to this question. What is conserved and what is not depends on the state you are looking at: an object in a central force orbit always has angular momentum conserved, but in a 1/r potential, it also has another quantity conserved: the Runge-Lenz vector.

Additionally, if x and y are conserved, x + ay is conserved as well, for all values of a. So if there are two, there are an infinite number.
 
I think the OP was simply asking about the "Conservation Laws".

From wikipedia, it lists a few things separated into "exact laws" and "approximate laws".
A partial listing of conservation laws that are said to be exact laws, or more precisely have never been shown to be violated:

Conservation of mass-energy
Conservation of linear momentum
Conservation of angular momentum
Conservation of electric charge
Conservation of color charge
Conservation of weak isospin
Conservation of probability density
CPT symmetry (combining charge, parity and time conjugation)
Lorentz symmetry

There are also approximate conservation laws. These are approximately true in particular situations, such as low speeds, short time scales, or certain interactions.

Conservation of mass (applies for non-relativistic speeds and when there are no nuclear reactions)
Conservation of baryon number (See chiral anomaly)
Conservation of lepton number (In the Standard Model)
Conservation of flavor (violated by the weak interaction)
Conservation of parity
Invariance under Charge conjugation
Invariance under time reversal
CP symmetry, the combination of charge and parity conjugation (equivalent to time reversal if CPT holds)
 
Drakkith said:
Yeah, It all depends on what you mean by "mass". Converting electrons-positrons to gamma rays removes the "mass" and turns it into energy or momentum or whatever.

Would it then be correct to say that a conservation of matter doesn't exist, but a conservation of mass does, seeing as energy does possesses mass?
 
1MileCrash said:
Would it then be correct to say that a conservation of matter doesn't exist, but a conservation of mass does, seeing as energy does possesses mass?

As wikipedia put it, I'd call it Conservation of mass-energy.
 
The concept of mass–energy equivalence connects the concepts of conservation of mass and conservation of energy, which continue to hold separately. The theory of relativity allows particles which have rest mass to be converted to other forms of mass which require motion, such as kinetic energy, heat, or light.From WkiPedia.
 

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