How does the Stern Gerlach experiment split a beam of hydrogen atoms?

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The discussion revolves around the Stern-Gerlach experiment and its effect on a beam of hydrogen atoms in the ground state as it passes through an inhomogeneous magnetic field. Participants are exploring how the beam splits and the implications of the magnetic field's orientation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the expected splitting of the beam into two paths and question the orientation of these paths relative to the magnetic field. There is a focus on the application of Fleming's left hand rule and its relevance to the problem.

Discussion Status

Some participants are providing insights into the nature of the Stern-Gerlach experiment and questioning the assumptions made about the direction of the split beams. There is an exploration of the underlying physics, including the magnetic force and the behavior of particles in a magnetic field gradient.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the unexpected nature of quantum mechanics in relation to the Stern-Gerlach experiment, highlighting the distinction between classical expectations and quantum outcomes. Participants are also noting the limitations of certain rules, such as Fleming's left hand rule, in this context.

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Homework Statement



If a beam of hydrogen atoms in ground state are passed through an inhomogeneous magnetic field, into how many paths will the beam be split? Assume that the beam is moving towards the plane of this page and the magnetic field is directed in the upward direction in the plane of this page.


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The Attempt at a Solution


It is known fact that naturally the beam will be divided into 2. What about the plane in which the 2 split beams exist. When I apply Flemings left hand rule, I find that it is in the horizontal plane. But the answer says, it is in the vertical plane.
 
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Amith2006 said:

Homework Statement



If a beam of hydrogen atoms in ground state are passed through an inhomogeneous magnetic field, into how many paths will the beam be split? Assume that the beam is moving towards the plane of this page and the magnetic field is directed in the upward direction in the plane of this page.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


It is known fact that naturally the beam will be divided into 2. What about the plane in which the 2 split beams exist. When I apply Flemings left hand rule, I find that it is in the horizontal plane. But the answer says, it is in the vertical plane.

I don't know much about Fleming's left hand rule, but the two beams should split along the same plane the magnetic field is in. You can convince yourself of this by looking at the magnetic force and the spin of the particles in terms of vector components.

I'd be careful with using the word 'natural' in anything related to quantum mechanics due to the fact that there are some unnatural features, Stern-Gerlach included. Scientists were shocked when the SG apparatus showed that particles, under the influence of a gradient magnetic field, would have discrete values, rather than a continuous distribution that was actually expected.
 
I looked up Fleming's left hand rule real quick online, and it seems that has application for electric motors only, and not magnetic fields.

For Stern-Gerlach, you should be looking at \mathbf{F}=-\nabla\left(-\boldsymbol{\mu}\cdot\mathbf{B}\right) to convince yourself that the particles will separate into the 2 components along the axis of the gradient magnetic field.
 
Thanx dude.
 

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